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Old 09-28-2008   #1 (permalink)
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my dad says that if I replace the motor in my 65 from a staight 6 200Ci to a 298Ci or 497Ci that it would lose the "classic" value and its worth would go down... What is your honest opinion on this? Im looking to compete in car shows with it...
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my dad says that if I replace the motor in my 65 from a staight 6 200Ci to a 298Ci or 497Ci that it would lose the "classic" value and its worth would go down... What is your honest opinion on this? Im looking to compete in car shows with it...
Well if u have the orginal motor its worth more,but if u need to replace the motor than u go with more power.It would be about the same value either way because it won't be the original motor anyways.
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Its a inline 6 car there is not much you can do that would hurt the value of it.But its a big job you gotta swap to all the v8 parts this will give you a idea Six Cylinder Upgrade V8 - Mustang & Fords Magazine
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Here's the main question that everyone else overlooked, you mentioned you want to compete in shows, but what shows or classes do you want to compete in? That will tell you what you want to do with the car.

MCA concourse trailered, concourse driven, and original classes will require you to keep the 200 in it, whether you rebuild the current one or replace it with another. Otherwise it's value as a MCA show car is gone. I won't mention Thoroughbred as that's the most difficult class to compete in and you won't ever drive the car. Ocasional driven and other classes are more open.

Regular shows won't care if you replace the I6 with a 260,289,302 or 351w motor.....as long as it looks good and not a hack job.

Notice the biggest engine I mentioned for your car was a 351w as a 351c, 390 and above are too big to fit easily. That year car was never designed for or offered with anything above a 289.
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MCA concourse trailered, concourse driven, and original classes will require you to keep the 200 in it, whether you rebuild the current one or replace it with another. Otherwise it's value as a MCA show car is gone. I won't mention Thoroughbred as that's the most difficult class to compete in and you won't ever drive the car. Ocasional driven and other classes are more open.

Regular shows won't care if you replace the I6 with a 260,289,302 or 351w motor.....as long as it looks good and not a hack job.

Notice the biggest engine I mentioned for your car was a 351w as a 351c, 390 and above are too big to fit easily. That year car was never designed for or offered with anything above a 289.
Even if MCA shows are something this person would like to enter and compete, they still can, there are 4 classes that are eligible for modifieds.
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The thing I my dad says that if I change the motor the the car loses its "classic" value because the engine isn't the original motor or the same type that the vin says it is...
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The thing I my dad says that if I change the motor the the car loses its "classic" value because the engine isn't the original motor or the same type that the vin says it is...
Truthfully, if I owned a 6, the first thing I would do is pull it for an 8. I had considered doing that many times, but it would be easier to buy a C code car and throw a 347 in there.

Unless the car is special for some reason, I highly doubt it would loose value. Let's face it, people buy cubes.
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Truthfully, if I owned a 6, the first thing I would do is pull it for an 8. I had considered doing that many times, but it would be easier to buy a C code car and throw a 347 in there.

Unless the car is special for some reason, I highly doubt it would loose value. Let's face it, people buy cubes.
Why do what everybody else is doing why not modify the 6 and be different , after all look at what they are doing with the 4 bangers now. Plenty of hipo parts around, just have to look harder, not that hard, but harder.
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You can look up the prices a inline6 coupe is worth less then a coupe with a v8.The fastback and convertible the price is the same no matter what engine it has.Car show depends if you want mustang only or just a normal car show.Yes you can build up a inline 6 but you'll still be swapping to the 8 inch rear and other v8 parts since you'll break things with more power.
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The thing I my dad says that if I change the motor the the car loses its "classic" value because the engine isn't the original motor or the same type that the vin says it is...
two things to consider, first a six doesn't have "that much" classic value and it has to be pristine to hold value, second keep the six...if decide to sell....you can still provide an "original equipment" car as long as you don't make crazy changes. Go have fun with this put it in modified class and have fun.
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what could I do to gain hp but keep the inline 6?
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I agree with the rest of the guys here. Unless its in museum quality condition you're not going to lose any value swaping to a V8. And it it were me I wouldn't try beefing up the old 6, a V8 conversion isn't that hard or expensive although if I was just wanting a V8 car I'd probably just sell the 6 and buy one.
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You can look up the prices a inline6 coupe is worth less then a coupe with a v8.The fastback and convertible the price is the same no matter what engine it has.
I beg to differ with you. here is no way you can tell me on anyone that a 6 in a fastback versus an 8 is worth the same. No different than a coupe, the bigger the cubes, the more it is worth, probably even more so on a vert or fastback.
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I don't know if he meant that to be taken literally or not but I understand where he's coming from. A nice inline 6 coupe can be bought for $6k. A project fastback without any drive train at all could also run $6k regardless of what engine was in it originally. Unless its a rare car coupes just are not worth a whole lot. On the other hand the 68 shelby coupe "Green Hornet" is one of the most valuable mustang ever too bad there was only one of them if there were more maybe the coupes would get a little more attention.
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I don't know if he meant that to be taken literally or not but I understand where he's coming from. A nice inline 6 coupe can be bought for $6k. A project fastback without any drive train at all could also run $6k regardless of what engine was in it originally.
I'll still disagree. Look at what a Project (shell) of say a K code in the case of a 65-66 or S code for 67-68 or R & Q code for 68.5/69/70. It will bring bigger dollars because of that letter in the vin.

Personally, I don't get it, your buying a vin, but people will pay more for those vins.
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