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Old 01-20-2009   #1 (permalink)
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Default 427 marine motors question.....

what would you have to do to a marine built 427 if you took it off the boat and decided to put it in a mustang?
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find a way to cool it... and fast...

really cant hook up ac or power steering

depending on the engine. they use water to cool them down. not radiator flud, allthough its the same concept.

gear it. the gearing is off.

put in one carb.. not 6 or 8 individual carbs ( like on mine )

add tourqe

and be a a good @$$ mechanic

ive dreamed of putting the engine from my boat in my car.
less HP..but the exaust soud is soooo much better, ofcorse it would never be street legal.
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....really?..
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buy a chevy big block

bore it out
i got a 6.6L ( 400 BB ) going to be taken out to a 424 ( 7.0L ) big block
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WHAT.....??????
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Hello. I would agree with that WTF?!? I saw a show on speed vision a while back called big-block shoot-out or some such foolishness. They took different big block motors from 'back in the day' and put them on a dyno in basically stock configuration, and the chevy 409 actually did put out something like 400 hp, compared to the 409 it was rated at. Of course , the Ford 427, rated at 425 hp, was actually putting out like 630 hp, and the Mopar 426 hemi, also rated at 425 hp, was putting out 835 hp.. Chevy motors have always been the pigs in their class, and if the suits at chevy found out that someone was trying to back-door a fast car with the Chevrolet name on it, they would squash that program like a roach bug. The early 60s corvettes had a steering system that was virtually identical to an early 20s Ford. Most manufacturers quit using a 2 speed automatic in the 50s, chevy was still using them in the 70s. That's why not even chevy guys like Chevrolets. When they buy a car, the first things that they do is put a decent ignition system in it, snatch that ridiculous stone age transmission out of it, snatch the motor out of it and try to eek a couple more horses out of it, and then, when all else fails, chrome it. I have my Ford car in pretty much stock configuration, and have been driving it daily for years. No chevy person would even consider attempting that with a chevy that was built in the spring of 64, like my car was. I have taken trips of over a thousand miles in my car. To do that with a chevy, you would need a tow bar and a parts car, along with enough tools to open a shop.

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A motor that has been used for a marine application is very seldom a suitable for a car, because it has used sea water, or lake water, for coolant, instead of coolant. This makes the inards of the block get really rusty. Also, a lot of them are set up for reverse rotation. If that's the case you'll need to swap out the cam and stuff to get it back to spinning in the right direction. Boat motors are generally only good for boat anchors after they're through being boat motors.
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very true ronnie, rust a big problem.
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Marine (Ford) blocks are cast from the same foundry as passenger car blocks. They are built to run at high rpm's for extended periods (stronger pistons, rods & crankshaft). To put it in a car you need a camshaft, distributor, timing cover, flywheel (maybe) and possibly the intake and carb for a passenger car. Just check the water jackets for corrosion if it was raw water cooled. It is very easy to do, just like a long block swap.
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Drop the wet manifolds for starters. Disassemble it, soak everything with WD-40, and take it to a machine shop to be "dipped". Marine shops can do this as they do with customer boats. Some of the Ford marine engines were 4 bolt mains as is the 460 marine engine in my now retired Bronco. You'll need a flywheel, manifolds (intake & exhaust), mounts, an oil pan, ignition system, cam, and on some depending on the application you may need a front cover. Mine had a motor plate in the front and provision for a fuel pump. If it was a reverse rotation engine you'll probably need a balancer as well as a cam. Marine engines are a pain cause some were 0 balance some were 28 oz. and the automotive yaers for these imbalances do not apply to these engines. They are however stout engines and will take alot of abuse.
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Marine (Ford) blocks are cast from the same foundry as passenger car blocks. They are built to run at high rpm's for extended periods (stronger pistons, rods & crankshaft). To put it in a car you need a camshaft, distributor, timing cover, flywheel (maybe) and possibly the intake and carb for a passenger car. Just check the water jackets for corrosion if it was raw water cooled. It is very easy to do, just like a long block swap.
They were cast in the same foundry but out of different alloys for corrosion, strength, and heat. I used to have a list of casting numbers for the marine engines. I'll see if I can't find it and post it for you guys. There are differences in the automotive and marine blocks.
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was gonna do that to my f150 the cost isnt worth it. just a big head ache unless you got endless amount of cash and dont care about when you get your car back
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''To do that with a chevy, you would need a tow bar and a parts car''. ''Boat motors are generally only good for boat anchors''
C'mon, now Thats just funny. You're funny
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I've thought about this when I had a blazer. I dont see how a boat engine would make less hp, seems like it would need more to do what a car does witha flip of a hat. 262's are also used so I wanted one for my blazer, they made more hp too.
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I will say a marine engine will make the car different.

There was a car at a show by me that had a Chrysler industrial engine in it, I think it was either a 383 or 440, it was stamped right in the valve covers with the industrial logo. The owner had pulled the engine off a pump. That definitely made that car unique and something different than what you normally see.

GM, Ford, and Chrysler sold engines for marine and industrial uses. Occasionally every now and then you may stumble upon one.
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Yep alot of those still end up in cehicles such as the old GM twinsixV12 used for pumps and generators found themselves in firetrucks and the two custom cars I forgot the name of. I know Jay Leno has one though.
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