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Old 06-13-2009   #1 (permalink)
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Default What's the value of 1969 Mustang GT convertible numbers?

Hello everyone. I have a title and all serial numbers (VIN, door tag, frame rail) for a 1969 Mustang GT convertible with deluxe interior, 390 V-8 w/ 4 speed manual transmission, Candy apple red. There is NO CAR! The car was a complete loss and I picked these items up quite a while ago. Anybody have an idea of what they are worth? It all came with a coupe that a guy had cut down and was going to use as a donor. I picked up a 6 banger conv. I was going to use as a donor instead.

My step-son has had alot of medical issues and I am forced to sell my projects, but need an idea of what to ask.

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if you are asking the value of a car with a switched vin, then I would say nothing, as it is not legal to swap vin's from car to car.
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Hello. They're worth about 5 years and a fine not to exceed 100k.
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But if you do a good job and dont get caught the look it up on line for prices because i dont think we should aid you in a fraud
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I don't think it is a fraud if I have the titles to both cars and use them to make one car. All the DMV asked is to see both titles.
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I was under the impression that a person could take two cars and make one out of them, as long as you had the title to both. Maybe I'm wrong on that, but I did (long ago) use some parts off a car on another and the DMV just asked to see both titles (they were extensive parts - but not on a Mustang). I have the title to both of the convertibles.

I'll have to check with the DMV. If it is illegal, I won't mess with it.
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Yes, a person could legally make one good car out of two cars. The thing is you have to use the VIN of the car that you use the shell of to build on.

The problem is if you put those S code tags/VIN on that T or L code convert body you have now made that car (body) something it never was, thats where the fraud part comes in.


The tags and VIN you have are cool momentos, great for displaying. I saved the buck tag from my 68 Metuchen parts car.
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I was under the impression that a person could take two cars and make one out of them, as long as you had the title to both. Maybe I'm wrong on that, but I did (long ago) use some parts off a car on another and the DMV just asked to see both titles (they were extensive parts - but not on a Mustang). I have the title to both of the convertibles.

I'll have to check with the DMV. If it is illegal, I won't mess with it.
Hi again. A person can take parts from two cars to make one, but, that isn't what you would be doing. What you are talking about doing is taking one car with a low market value and altering the vin so that it appears to be a car with a high market value. You would be removing the vin from the low end car and replacing it with the vin of the high end car. Ask the DMV how they feel about an altered vin.
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I saw this car on a Mustang/Shelby Restoration shop website. This '69 GT350 Convertible is scheduled to be restored. It's hard to tell it was a Mustang at all. I wonder how they will do it..... Maybe they will tout the original bolt from a fender when they sell it!
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Hi again. I'm pretty sure that SAAC has been notified of this car and Mr. Liska will make the appropriate notations in the upcoming registry.
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I don't know, I mean what really is original any more?

You have "restorations" where they cut the entire car apart and built it like a new car. I think that based on some of the definitions of fraud that are being listed here many cars that people would love to own would be frauds.

So if he had this 390 car and he cut it into a million pieces, ordered a ton of sheet metal from Taiwan and stitched it back together. That would be ok. But if he takes a solid donor car, cuts both into a million pieces and welds it all together, then that is not ok??? I have seen Boss cars that had the roof, floor, doors, quarters, fenders, dash, inner and outer rockers, inner aprons, and much more replaced, with NOS, Taiwan, and donor sheet metal. I really don’t see an issue with it so long as the work is done to make it the correct car. Not just putting the vin on it, this is really only taboo in the US. In the UK you can order a brand new body from British Motor Heritage for a Mini, MGB, Austin Sprite, and several other cars, because they rust out. Some of the most prominent cars in rally racing (all road registered in the UK) have had new bodies three or four times.
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I believe that a Dynacorn body can be used legally on a restoration so I see no problem with using another body
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I saw this car on a Mustang/Shelby Restoration shop website. This '69 GT350 Convertible is scheduled to be restored. It's hard to tell it was a Mustang at all. I wonder how they will do it..... Maybe they will tout the original bolt from a fender when they sell it!

Where is this shop?
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Where is this shop?
I just went to the website and the photos are not there anymore. It was a while back that I saved those pics. The shop has been sold since I last was at their website. It was Tango Classics and now it is ShelbyMustang.com. The old shop was located in Bellingham, Massachusetts.
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Oh i though you were swapping the VIN of one car and putting it on a different one like the 1974 Gone in 60 seconds.
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