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Default K Code Fastback on eBay - Opinions please

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I'm looking for my first mustang purchase, here's a listing on eBay I'd like opinions on.

Ford : Mustang:eBay Motors (item 140355199647 end time Nov-05-09 13:00:00 PST)

A couple of things jump out at me, they advertise a complete pony interior conversion but are missing the courtesy lights in the door. The door jambs don't looks great, almost like there is paint on top of rust? The rocker strip is incorrect I believe, shouldn't it wrap around the front lip if the fender well?

So what I'd like to get is everyone's opinion? Am I wrong or being too picky? Are there other things I should be concerned about? Does it look to be a good deal? Is there a way to check the authenticity of the K code and GT claim? Don't a few people maintain a database of VINs that I can check?

Thanks for any tips or insight you can offer!

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34 grand they are funny that car i wouldn't pay more then 12k for the door jams look like crap makes me think whoever restored it half assed it.
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Why go thru all that and do shoddy work on the jambs? The springs were missing on the detent plate in the hinges as well. Makes me wonder where else they cut corners.
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Yeah there are some serious flaws for 34K. It is a real K code fastback by VIN so that is a plus but the jambs look really rough not to mention they look like they have overspray on the weatherstrips. Who does a restoration and paints a car after the weatherstrips are put back on? There is black overlapped from the engine bay up onto the fenders. The paintwork looks bad in some spots. All of the pics seem to highlight the new bolt on parts that anyone can order and install in a weekend. I would worry that it was poorly done and painted and had some new shiny parts thrown at it just to sell. What is under the bolted on stuff? What do the floors look like? What is hidden under that paintjob? I wouldn't give more than about 10k for it and only that because it is a real K code fastback.
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I think those VIN/tags look very suspicious, almost like someone took them from another car...I'd have to have some serious paperwork/documentation before I paid a "K" code price for this restomod...If you just want a fun car and can win it for a good price, go for it...
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This car has been discussed on the HIPO Registry forum at hipomustang.com. If you are seriously considering the car, I suggest you read the comments posted on that site (you will have to register on the site to view that comment area but it is free to register and you do nto have ot own a Mustang).
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This is just my two cents, and may not be worth even that. The car maybe is a K code by the tag and fender, however, that is not a K code motor in there now. You can tell by the harmonic balancer. The K code 289's had to have the thicker balancer. I imagine it is a 289, just not a Hi-po.
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It's a nice looking car, but the door jams and the VIN stuff looks a little suspicious to me.

Doesn't the inner fender VIN stamping look a little too crisp?

Why does the door tag have new rivots on it, but it's all crappy around and behind it?

Buck tags just screw on and easily moved from one car to the next.
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This car has been discussed on the HIPO Registry forum at hipomustang.com. If you are seriously considering the car, I suggest you read the comments posted on that site (you will have to register on the site to view that comment area but it is free to register and you do nto have ot own a Mustang).
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Could you please post a link to the discussion I was unable to find anything about this car
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Veronica needs to see this, she would be able to tell what the deal is.
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Hello. Why, thank you, Denne. That's very sweet of you. As luck would have it, I'm familiar with this car, and that's waaay too much money. Starting with the motor, it has the wrong balancer, as has already been noted, which means it probably has the wrong entire spinning assembly. That might not sound like a big deal to some, but, it would cost you about 400 bucks to get the right balancer, and a set of hipo main bearing caps will cost you about a grand. It has the wrong fuel pump. Again, you might be thinking that a fuel pump costs about 40 bucks, however, the Carter 4201S fuel pump will cost you, again, about a grand. And that's after you spend a year or two finding one. It has the wrong carburetor. The right carburetor is a 600cfm Autolite 4100 with a manual choke and, for that car, would be the C6ZF-9510-F. The carb used on all hipo Mustangs was hipo Mustang specific, and not used on anything else, and, with that car having come with an automatic transmission, which wasn't even available on a K code until the beginning of the 66 model year, this particular carb is the rarest of the K code carbs. What that translates to is that the right carb will cost you about 4 grand if you can find one in the next couple of years. After that, who knows? I doubt if the price will start coming down, though. This car also has the wrong intake, which will set you back another four hundred or so. It does have one hipo head on the driver's side. The passenger side, you can't tell from the photos, but, I can't imagine that it has the wrong head on the other side. The hipo heads are completely different from the other 289 heads. The person taking the pictures was apparently careful to not get a good shot of the fan, but, it looks like the wrong one. Again, the right one will cost about a grand.

As for the body, there aren't any pictures of the undercarriage to show if it's actually a K code body, but, it does say that the car has had the entire floor pan replaced, so, I'm confident that all of the places that had something K code specific have been replaced. You can't really tell from the pictures, but, it looks like the hole in the firewall for the manual choke cable is missing. The presence of a hole that isn't supposed to be there doesn't really mean much. Anyone can poke a hole in a car, and, people do that all the time. However, the absence of a hole that is supposed to be there is a whole 'nuther thing. The vin stamping on the inner fender looks like it has been cut out of another car and welded into this one. That could have been part of a repair because the inner fender had to be replaced, or, it could be that this car is exactly what it appears to be. A re-body. I do know that this guy has been trying to sell this car for quite a while, and hasn't been able to.

Based just on what I've said so far, this car is brutally over-priced. But, I do know a guy that has actually looked at this car, and, as far as I can tell, anyway, this guy knows everything. When I have a question about these cars, he's the person I ask. I do know this, though, without even asking. Someone was interested enough in buying that car to pay him to go up to Dallas and look at it for them, and then that person didn't buy the car.
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HiPo Mustang eKschange

Here's the link but you probably don't need it after reading what Veronica says in her post.
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Veronica,



What did your friend, the expert that looked at the car, think the it was worth?

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At this point the AFM jury says "this is a fraud"!!! I'm not even an expert and could tell...Veronica you are the swami, thanks for your input
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Default Thanks Everyone!

I'm pretty n00b to this site but knew I could get some good answers! I appreciate everyone looking at it and giving their opinion. I'll pass on it and keep looking.
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