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Old 11-26-2006   #1 (permalink)
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I have a 1968 Mustang and thought the engine was a 289 CID V8 until someone told me they thought it was a 302. I contacted the Ford Research Unit, providing them with the VIN number. After searching through their archives, they sent me a letter stating the car in question had a 390 CID V8 engine. Can this be possible?? Also, they stated the car is a Fast Back. Did the 68 model offer the Fast Back with a convertible option? I'd appreciate any help. I'm interested in selling the car (which is in excellent condition), but I want to know the facts before listing. Thanks!
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The 289 and 302 are identical exterior wise, after all the 302 is a stroked 289. They switched to the 302 during the '68 model year and some motors, like the 289 in my '68, have a 302 block.

In 1968 the 289 would be a "C" as the 5th digit in the VIN. The 302 would be a "J", and the 390 would be a "S". There were a handful of '68's custom ordered with the 2v 390 and they were "X" codes since this option didn't show up on the sheets. If the VIN is an 'S' then the car was originally a 390 that at some point was replaced with a 302 or 289. Not uncommon for vehicles of this age to no longer have the original motors.

There was no such thing as a fastback convertible. On the driver's door data plate the first code is the body style.

'63' was for a fastback. There would be a letter after the number denoting what trim level it was, A, B, C, or D. A was for standard interior, B was deluxe interior, C was standard interior with a front bench seat, and D was deluxe interior with a front bench seat.

'76' was for the convertibles.

Where did you get the VIN from when you sent it in to Ford? Do all the VINs match on the car? The one on the driver's door, the front windshield, and the inner fenders. It's possible the driver's door was replaced at some point with a door from another car but they left the tag for the other car on. It's also possible the inner fenders were replaced showing a different VIN. There's even the remote chance someone put all the VIN identification from another car on this one for some reason. That's why the VIN doesn't match what the car is. The only VIN requiring much work is the inner fenders, the other two only rivet in place. While theft could be one reason for this, I know of people who have switched VINs (although illegal) because of lost titles or other paperwork. They would buy a wreck or a parts car with good paperwork and swap everything with another vehicle. While this would work with the DMV it would create a problem if the car is researched through Ford or Marti and it comes back as something different.
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I have a 1968 Mustang and thought the engine was a 289 CID V8 until someone told me they thought it was a 302. I contacted the Ford Research Unit, providing them with the VIN number. After searching through their archives, they sent me a letter stating the car in question had a 390 CID V8 engine. Can this be possible?? Also, they stated the car is a Fast Back. Did the 68 model offer the Fast Back with a convertible option? I'd appreciate any help. I'm interested in selling the car (which is in excellent condition), but I want to know the facts before listing. Thanks!
We need the VIN to tell you what it was originally equiped with. Underside of the engine near the started pad is a series of numbers cast into the block we need those to tell you what you have now...the Eng CID is also cast into the lifter galley if you have the intake off and it is also cast into the heads but that won't garantee anything except what the heads came off of. No on the 'vert option, it's either a fastback or a vert or a coupe no mixing and matching.
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That's gotta be the greatest thing I have ever read.

Hard to believe that someone owns a classic mustang in excellent condition and doesn't knwo what he/she has. If you want it to be deciphered, post the VIN number(s) that you have available. Check all the previously mentioned locations to make sure that all the VIN's match, if they don't then Jay would be right in that your VIN's could have been illegaly swapped.

Also, post a picture if you want...then we could tell you if you have a Convertible, or a fastback...

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I have a 1968 Mustang and thought the engine was a 289 CID V8 until someone told me they thought it was a 302. I contacted the Ford Research Unit, providing them with the VIN number. After searching through their archives, they sent me a letter stating the car in question had a 390 CID V8 engine. Can this be possible?? Also, they stated the car is a Fast Back. Did the 68 model offer the Fast Back with a convertible option? I'd appreciate any help. I'm interested in selling the car (which is in excellent condition), but I want to know the facts before listing. Thanks!

SOUNDS LIKE SOMEONE CHANGED THE DOOR TAGS&DIDN'T REPLACE THE ORIGIONAL TAG.it's not illegal.just incredibly stupid.
check the vin number on the inner fender.or the one on the dash,in the heater opening.the motor codes will tell you one thing.what motor it is.thats all.
they don't tell you what car it came in origionally,just when it was produced.the GT 390 S code was an option...............
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