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Old 10-12-2007   #1 (permalink)
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this was my first car i got when i was 15 and i am 21 now and just getting it to where i want it but need help i don't have all that much money and im getting a 358w short block and i just got a pair of original 1969 Ford 351W heads These heads have been ported, have screw in studs and guide plates,and roller rockers with posi-locks. The intake valves are 194s and the exhaust are 160s. Stainless exhaust valves and hard seats High performance valve springs to see pic of heads go to my profile. now i need to no what cam intake and carb to get i was thanking edelbrock air gap intake road demon 625 to 750cfm and edelbrock rpm cam and lifters or rollin thunder cam and roller lifters but i thank that will eat to much gas what do you guys thank i should do?
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Is that 358 going to be based on the 302 block or the 351W block? If the engine mounts on your '65 are the same as mine, I don't know if you'll be able to close the hood on it with a 351W in it with any type of a highrise manifold. I can barely close mine with a Performer RPM intake on a 302, with a 1 1/2 inch Edlebrock triangle foam air filter. I prefer the Holly vaccume secondary carbs for street use, and for a 358 depending on camshaft and intended rpm's, a 700cfm might work better, and give you better low rpm throttle response than a 750cfm would. Hopefully somebody on here that has more experience with stroker engines than I do, will chime in that can give you some more specific set up information.
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A 1965 model wasn't designed for a 351 block so you might have some hood clearance issues. Nothing that a cowl hood couldn't fix.
The heads you have do have a lot of potential, now match them with an Edelbrock RPM Air Gap intake. The carb choice should depend on your personal preference, either gas mileage or performance. For mileage, a vacuum secondary 650 would suffice. For more performance, go with a mechanical secondary 650 in the brand you like. I'd choose either a Holley HP or a Speed Demon. For the cam, which do you want, flat tappet or roller? Lots of choices with both. There's lots of better choices than that Edelbrock cam.
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can barely close mine with a Performer RPM intake on a 302, with a 1 1/2 inch Edlebrock triangle foam air filter.
I watched the insides of one of those filters disappear down the carb on a freshly rebuilt 390 when the other guy hit the throttle for the first time. Luckily the engine survived after we pulled all the chunks of foam out of the carb.
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The only time I've had that try to happen was when I forgot to put the inside support wires back to hold the foam up in the filter cage, but it doesn't really matter now, since one backfire through the carb took it out lol.
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yes it is based on a 351w and i have the same edelbrock air filter as you i want to get a 67 shelby gt500 type hood and i was going to get the edelbrock cam cuz its got the same rpm range as the air gap intake 1500 to 6500
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Ok sounds like you l ready were looking at increasing the clearance for the carb, sounds good. The Performer RPM cam should worlk nice with the rest of the parts you have planned, I don't know if you'd need much more cam than that for the street with the extra torque of a 358w. IF I go to the trouble of shoe horning a 351W block into my '65, I'm going to go with a stroker built to somewhere between 392 and 427ci. What transmission, and rear end gearing are you going to run with it?
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i dont have the money for a 392 or 427 stroker. a c4 with performance rebuild kit and shift kit stock rear and gear im putting parts on it as i get the money
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spraguepsycho1 IF I go to the trouble of shoe horning a 351W block into my'65. i thought all you had to do to get a 351w in a 65 body was buy swap headers. is that right??
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yes they fit without any other modifications, it's just tight enough that getting to spark plugs for tune ups is a pain. IF I remember right it's just the plugs that line up by the shock towers that are a tight fit to get the spark plug socket into. You also need the 351 distributor.
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