I'm sorry but Fords should have Ford engines in them and Chevys should have Chevy engines in them. Its a shame that a classic Mustang will have a Chevy engine in it.
Just for that, I'm going to get an old Camaro and put a Ford 289 in it.
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66 Coupe - CandyApple Red, 2 barrel 289, C4.
66 Coupe - (father-daughter project). Tangier Orange, 302 with AOD, 17 inch Bullit wheels.
69 F-100 - 351c. Emerald Green Metallic paint. Still "in progress".
68 Barracuda - Rusted out project. 318 in the frame rails for now. Maybe a 360 in the future.
00 Mustang - (son's car) V6, 18 inch Saleen wheels.
Anyone that would come up with the idea of going through the hassle of fitting a 350 chevy motor into the car, instead of a 351 cleveland, which is a stronger motor and will basically drop right in, doesn't exactly have all of their oars in the water to begin with.
Well, the main advantage of a Chevy 350 over a Ford 351 Cleveland is that there are a lot more Chevy 350 engines out there than there are Ford 351 Clevelands, therefore there are more parts.
The need to upgrade a 351 Cleveland's oil system for any performance usage would be another factor.
Not saying I think it's a great idea, though I'll admit to having been tempted to try it... and it's opposite (putting the 460 that's in my backyard into my '75 Chevy... seriously not gonna happen, got way too nice of a 400sb in there to consider it, and a fresh and nicely upgraded TH350 tranny.)
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1976 Ford Mustang II Ghia: 302 with a 600cfm Edelbrock carb, Edelbrock Performer 289 intake, Dynomax Blackjack headers, 2.5" exhaust with Flowmaster Super 44s. RJS 11-gallon fuel cell, C4 tranny, chrome 16" pony wheels, fuzzy dice, brown vinyl half-top, and painted in the tackiest color ever (harvest gold, that's why I call it "The Goldenrod").
Also have a 2003 Dodge Ram (lightly modded daily driver/tow rig/office/dining room/home away from home/workshop... I call it "The Big Blue Dawg".)
Well, the main advantage of a Chevy 350 over a Ford 351 Cleveland is that there are a lot more Chevy 350 engines out there than there are Ford 351 Clevelands, therefore there are more parts.
The need to upgrade a 351 Cleveland's oil system for any performance usage would be another factor.
Not saying I think it's a great idea, though I'll admit to having been tempted to try it... and it's opposite (putting the 460 that's in my backyard into my '75 Chevy... seriously not gonna happen, got way too nice of a 400sb in there to consider it, and a fresh and nicely upgraded TH350 tranny.)
Hi again. I understand that you can buy bolt-on go fast stuff for a 350 at your corner grocery store. The savings on those parts doesn't nearly compensate for the headaches of making the swap. If someone is really in love with the 350 chevy motor, for whatever reason, they should probably be driving an impala or a camaro or something. The 350 fits into one of those very easily. To hack up a mustang to put in an inferior motor just because of parts availability is, to me, anyway, not a decision which was as carefully thought out as it should have been.
The Cleveland is a weak block thats why most people use to put the Cleveland heads on the Windsor block. But now most after market heads out flow the Cleveland heads.Id sell the chevy 350 and build a ford engine.
The Cleveland is a weak block thats why most people use to put the Cleveland heads on the Windsor block. But now most after market heads out flow the Cleveland heads.Id sell the chevy 350 and build a ford engine.
i also have to think in the last 10 or so years the aftermarket has caught up with ford and there really is no cost benefit building a SBC over a windsor ford
Not any worse than all the old hot rodded Fords with Chevy 350s in them.
I will never understand how something so individual as hot rodding always ends up with the SAME DRIVE TRAIN in every hotrod?
I think you should talk him into a 4.6L 32 valve swap with a supercharger and see what he says.
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1966 289-2V C-4 Convertible. All original drivetrain. Factory center console and power top. Dual res. MC and power brake upgrade. Rust bucket brought back to life, I am the 2nd owner of "Lucy".
1990 GT 25th Anniversary 5.0 AOD Convertible. Dynomax cat-back, K&N, the usual crap. Welded in subframes, welded in reinforcement plates (Ford riveted them in. Go Ford! )New engine and transmission. Date coded radiator hoses. Second owner of "Katie".
Not any worse than all the old hot rodded Fords with Chevy 350s in them.
I will never understand how something so individual as hot rodding always ends up with the SAME DRIVE TRAIN in every hotrod?
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Hi again. That's just one more bit of evidence to demonstrate what I've always held to be true. Even chevy guys don't like chevrolets. That's why the first things that they do when they end up with a chevy is snatch that stupid two-speed transmission, the entire ignition system and that Rochester Leakmeister carburetor out and throw them in the trash and start looking for a Ford rear end, and don't mind buying an entire Ford car to get that rear end, even if it's the banjo rear end instead of an 8, 8.8 or 9 inch and put their chromed out motor with a 350 block and the rest being Edelbrock or something in the car. Every chevy guy's dream. A Ford.
Like you can't find parts for a 289/302/347 stroker
I believe in two things when it comes to old cars, and this is just my personal feelings:
1. Keep it original, or at least more or less period correct. I love the feeling of crappy drum brakes, horrible steering, and a carb engine that doesn't like to start when it is too hot/cold/cloudy outside. The more new parts and modern technology is added to a classic, the less of its classic soul survives
2. Be original yourself. A flat heat V8 with triple Offy carbs is always gonna be cooler in your '49 Ford than a fuel-injected LS1 or even a 5.0 EFI.
That said, I really love the latest 5.0/4.6/AOD/T5/disc brake swaps that everyone is doing. They make our classics more driveable, and that is what it's all about, right?
What would really stand out is a '50s E400 or E475 under the hood of a Mustang, or even a 2.3L SVO turbo motor. Again, something different.
Even if you have a Chevy, the 350 is just too overdone for me. 327, 283, 400SB, those are a bit less common.
As Veronica says, the cost you save in trying to graft that 350 in will far outweigh the headaches involved for both mechanic and owner. Sell the engine on ebay and then sell him on how cool a 347 dressed as a stock 289 would be
Here is another use for that 350:
Here is what NOT to do with it:
That would be a Cobra kit car, with a SBC 350. What the F*#k is wrong with these people?
Nissan twin-turbo '67 Mustang:
Thankfully, it was only done for a movie
As with any classic, modern engine or SBC Chevy or not, at least these cars are still on the road and cared for, and not being crushed for scrap in a junk yard to be lost forever.
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1966 289-2V C-4 Convertible. All original drivetrain. Factory center console and power top. Dual res. MC and power brake upgrade. Rust bucket brought back to life, I am the 2nd owner of "Lucy".
1990 GT 25th Anniversary 5.0 AOD Convertible. Dynomax cat-back, K&N, the usual crap. Welded in subframes, welded in reinforcement plates (Ford riveted them in. Go Ford! )New engine and transmission. Date coded radiator hoses. Second owner of "Katie".
The old hot rods had slow engines compared to what you can use now and hot rodding means put the biggest engine in the smallest car.I dislike the mod motor after working at a ford dealer ship here.If i wanted to be different id use a gmc 478 v6 or a tt ford 300.
Not that either of these engines exactly "fit" in the cars
Can you say, "Sorry I'm late. I had to stop for gas.....5 times"
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1966 289-2V C-4 Convertible. All original drivetrain. Factory center console and power top. Dual res. MC and power brake upgrade. Rust bucket brought back to life, I am the 2nd owner of "Lucy".
1990 GT 25th Anniversary 5.0 AOD Convertible. Dynomax cat-back, K&N, the usual crap. Welded in subframes, welded in reinforcement plates (Ford riveted them in. Go Ford! )New engine and transmission. Date coded radiator hoses. Second owner of "Katie".
I understand that you can buy bolt-on go fast stuff for a 350 at your corner grocery store. The savings on those parts doesn't nearly compensate for the headaches of making the swap. If someone is really in love with the 350 chevy motor, for whatever reason, they should probably be driving an impala or a camaro or something. The 350 fits into one of those very easily.
To hack up a mustang to put in an inferior motor just because of parts availability is, to me, anyway, not a decision which was as carefully thought out as it should have been.
)New engine and transmission. Date coded radiator hoses. Second owner of "Katie".
That's why the first things that they do when they end up with a chevy is snatch that stupid two-speed transmission, the entire ignition system and that Rochester Leakmeister carburetor out and throw them in the trash and start looking for a Ford rear end, and don't mind buying an entire Ford car to get that rear end, even if it's the banjo rear end instead of an 8, 8.8 or 9 inch and put their chromed out motor with a 350 block and the rest being Edelbrock or something in the car. Every chevy guy's dream. A Ford.
