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OK guys i am a big mustang fan and i am new to this, i have a 1965 mustang coupe with a straight 6 and i have a fuel injected 302 from a 1988 ford f150 will this be an easy swap or not.

Also i am goin to rebuild the 1988 302 and i would like some advice on wat to do for the rebuild to get good horse power on a budget?
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Your 6 mustang has all the wrong parts for a V8 mustang.
1. keep the 6 and make a 6 car.
2. save the body and get rid of everything else and replace with V8 parts.
the 88 parts will work but with a bunch of work.
None of this is going to be easy. every thing you change will make you change 2 more things.
Drive the car as a 6, sell it as a 6, buy a V8 mustang. way easier.
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hi i know its not goin to be a simple switch u are saying it doesnt make sence but guys do it all the time, can u give me an idea of wat all i will have to change plz?
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Ok, you asked for it.
spindles [might as well go disc brakes or buy v8 drums]
master cylinder [another reason to go discs-kit comes w/mc]
springs
upper and lower control arms [while it's apart]
shocks
5 lug rear axles
firewall forward wiring[cause yours is probably crap]
different engine[truck motor-all you have is a block]
exhaust front to rear
Plus all the stuff you probably need to replace either way
rebuilt trans?
rebuild rear brake system
Fuel system?
Interior?
Alot of little things that add up. There is a lot of things to work on without changing engine setup.
Don't get me wrong, It can be done. I've done it and have a really nice car, but you can buy a V8 cheaper and still have to do a lot of this stuff, depending on the car.
Keep the i6, get a feel for what it takes to fix it up, sell it, and buy something else. Hell, you might decide you like it.
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I have an i6 mustang and its fun for a little while but understand the need for an engine swap. It'll be fun and a learning experience. I say go for it.
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You'll probably need a bigger rear end, too, not just the 5 lug axles.
Basically have to rebuild the entire front end - steering and suspension, and upgrade brakes, like jlp said.
I looked into it when I rebuilt my I6, and I ended up replacing a lot of this anyway, but with I6 components. I'm at about $5K into it right now, and didn't touch the diff, axles, transmission, or brakes (other than a basic brake job and new brake lines). Not counting what I paid for the car and new tires/wheels.
If you're going to have to replace all of that anyway, it might make sense for you to make the leap to the V8. If it's what you really want, and you have the $, I say go for it, too.
Me, I preferred to go more the restoration route than mod. To each his own.
I can't answer your specific questions about modding the 302, but Good luck!
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You'll probably need a bigger rear end, too, not just the 5 lug axles.
Basically have to rebuild the entire front end - steering and suspension, and upgrade brakes, like jlp said.
I looked into it when I rebuilt my I6, and I ended up replacing a lot of this anyway, but with I6 components. I'm at about $5K into it right now, and didn't touch the diff, axles, transmission, or brakes (other than a basic brake job and new brake lines). Not counting what I paid for the car and new tires/wheels.
If you're going to have to replace all of that anyway, it might make sense for you to make the leap to the V8. If it's what you really want, and you have the $, I say go for it, too.
Me, I preferred to go more the restoration route than mod. To each his own.
I can't answer your specific questions about modding the 302, but Good luck!
^ What he said. When I got my car I immediately wanted to do a V8 swap, but the guy before me had already replaced and rebuilt everything in the front end. I decided, why waste good parts? Sixes are great, a lot of low end torque, and they get decent mileage. Then again, it all depends on the kind of car you're looking to build. The objective of my car is to build a cruiser/daily driver, but if you want a weekend warrior that'll light the tires and do all the crazy stuff, go with the V8.
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I say keep the I6. It keeps the originality of the car. Theyr not making anymore 65 mustangs so I like keeping them stock haha. You can modify your I6 to have power and Everyone's got a v8!!
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Your best bet is to find another wrecked donor car and snag your parts of it. But depending on budget it's not a hard swap, heck cjpony has fulle v8 suspension an steering lots for like $700 brand new. And those late model 5.0s use a rear sump pan, and the timing cover has no dipstick hole. So to use it you need to change the oil pump pickup to a 65 style and use a 65 front sump pan and then last but not least you're gonna have to drill a small hole through the timing cover for the dip stick. Then tap the original dipstick hole in the side of the block an thread in a plug. Also those late model 5.0 are 50oz imbalance so you ld need to order 157 tooth 50z flex plate( if using with a c4). And last but not least you must use all late model pulleys ( unless you buy a conversion kit which are around $200). The late model pulleys have different bolt patterns compared to the old ones.
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so,..................................... I wonder what the guy from 08 did to his car......................
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