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I was wondering if I could just change my headlight bulbs from the stock ones to HID's? Would the voltage and amperage be enough to power a higher intensity bulb, if so does anyone know who makes a HID bulb to fit a classic mustang.
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Might not be a bad idea to move to a relay driven headlight setup if you are going to be pulling any more current with the new bulbs. There are some kits out there or you can do it yourself pretty easily.

Similar issue with the horn in that the wire runs from the battery to the switches and back in increase resistance. I understand many notice a brighter bulb just with the relay setup. I have a long ways to go still with mine before headlights light up though..

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Ive been trying to find HID headlights for my car too with no luck. I have however found a brand that makes the fake HID called Delta Xenon ( I have them on my car now). They are considerably brighter than stock and are a brilliant white with a little bit of blue. My only issue with them is that the lens doesnt "bulge" out like the stock lens, they are flat. Remember though, they are fake, they arent going to impress any tuner car enthusiests. And they wont blind everyone on the freeway at night ( or get you a ticket ) Here is a picture and price. Mustang Parts and Accessories

They even have a High or Low beam for the smaller 1969 lights. Also, it is a simple plug and play, no adapters, no relays or amplifiers.
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hey wheres san dimas? soon as i tear out my POS wiring harness ill be puting hids in well im not a shop in sf will its a relay setup they quoted me 150 installed

side note there is no kits for are cars that i know of correct me if im wrong
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i am really looking for just the bulbs, Does anyone just make the bulbs?
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I installed these from ebay on my 1966 Fastback: eBay Motors: 64 65 66 67 68 FORD MUSTANG EURO XENON HEADLIGHTS 1967 (item 120377020209 end time Mar-13-09 06:48:39 PDT)
Here is a picture of a the H.I.D. on the right and the standard on the left, definately much brighter. The replacement is same as swapping out the bulb, I didn't do the relay kit yet but I still plan to do it some day when I'm bored.
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I installed these from ebay on my 1966 Fastback: eBay Motors: 64 65 66 67 68 FORD MUSTANG EURO XENON HEADLIGHTS 1967 (item 120377020209 end time Mar-13-09 06:48:39 PDT)
Here is a picture of a the H.I.D. on the right and the standard on the left, definately much brighter. The replacement is same as swapping out the bulb, I didn't do the relay kit yet but I still plan to do it some day when I'm bored.
I'm not sure of all the headlight terminology but the headlights above are not what I think of as being HID. The HID headlights require a ballast for each bulb.
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You know, you are right. After I posted I pulled the box out and on the package it reads H.I.D. but in small print on the bottom is written:
"Super Plazma Xenon Bulb the lenses have been optically dyed to transform the light into an intense white beam which simulates the appearance of a H.I.D. lighting system"
Good catch, but regardless they are a lot brighter than my old bulbs
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If you want real H.I.D's, you should start off by getting aftermarket headlights that use a H4 Bulb. They cheap on Ebay abd are a great improvement over stock.It is best if you get a harness with the relays too. Then, You can get a H.I.D conversion kit For the H4's. You can get a cheap kit on Ebay for around 60 bucks and they Super Bright!
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you can do the H4 headlight conversion and then add the HId kit, but i would recommend the relay upgrade. i did it on my 68 and i got all the stuff from http://www.myhotmustang.com/Option-Racing/Projection-Lights/Universal-Option-Racing-Diamond-Cut-Projector-Headlight-_-15_99107/609911/. they sold me the HID kit for 80 open box resale so it was really cheap.. but i have notice a crazy diffrence and it looks beautiful
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some pics of my HIDs
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Those HID lights look great!

To those of you installing H4 bulbs, yes, you will certainly want to switch over to relays for your headlight's power. Dragging that much current through the harness and the wee wires puts a lot of stress on the switch and wiring.

I did the relay switch last summer, and my headlights were a LOT brighter (I have H4 bulbs), it was amazing.

Now for those HIDs, did you have problems fitting them in the shallow buckets of the '66?

Relay trick: Brighter Headlights

It only took about 2 hours, and was very easy. If you don't like the relays on the fender apron, you can hide then in the fender or under the battery as a few on this forum have.

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We installed the new H4 Xenon bulbs from an Ebay store into the 66.

The driver side was not as bright because of the old wiring had lots of resistance. I changed out the wiring and added relays and it made a huge difference. Cost was about $25 for parts

Relays are the way to go. Just buy a couple of extra relays to keep in the glove box "just in case"...
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