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Default Modern Motor in a 65 Mustang

Well like everyone else in the world, I am looking into options for a newer motor in my 65 Mustang. Only problem is, it seems that every combination I am looking at seems to be a HUGE hassle due to the fact that the modular motors are W I D E ! Who out there has done this and what is the best option to go with to get Modern performance at minimal hassle and what is a general overall cost to it? Also, the power numbers on many of the Ford modular motors seem to be lacking compared to the Chevy LS motors. Has anyone done a swap with a chevy ls motor in one of these 65's?
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Not sure about chevy motors in a mustang but if you're looking for lots of engine compartment space for a modular motor, look into the coilover conversions that eliminate the shock towers.
I got this one for mine (just a skinny 5.0 engine though)
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Why not look into swapping in a 5.0 fuel injected. The options are endless, they look nice, and the same mounts, and front suspension can be retained for future, if you change your mind. The chevy LS engine would be great in an old Camaro, but if pushrod V8 is alright, then the 5.0 is the way to go, besides if you want power, either engine makes as much as your wallet allows. A gentleman where I used to live in Bowling Green, had a 5.0 in his 1995 Mustang putting 1300 horsepower down to the pavement when the car would hook up. He had fuel injection with a ported edelbrock intake, Trick Flow heads, and twin turbos. Very cool set-up, and could drive it on the street.
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I've seen a couple of mustangs running LS motors. I don't see why so many ppl get their panties in a twist about that type of swap. Who really cares what manufacturer produced the engine, if you want to use it use it. After rebuilding a ford motor with aftermarket heads, cams, intake ect. its not really a ford engine anymore anyway. The advantage to the LS motors are pretty obvious. They are everywhere, make a lot of power right out of the box, are fairly inexpensive and you wouldn't have to rebuild the whole front of the car to put it in. I put the 4.6 DOHC in my 68 because if found a mark viii for cheap but I would have had no problem using an LS engine if I would have found a cheap donor car.
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I agree swap what you have I am putting a Zetec in a classic Fiat, why because I found it cheap and I know how to work on it. That and it is 2x the HP.
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Remember a chevy 350 or ls1 is about the size of a 351w.If you don't mind making your own motor any tranny mounts go for.You can get some of the truck engines cheap swap to the car intake for hood clearance.Watch this show Horsepower they take a junkyard lq4 the 6.0 and make some big power cheaply.There is a early camaro with a ford 302 in it,Its your car put whatever engine you want and can afford.
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Remember a chevy 350 or ls1 is about the size of a 351w.If you don't mind making your own motor any tranny mounts go for.You can get some of the truck engines cheap swap to the car intake for hood clearance.Watch this show Horsepower they take a junkyard lq4 the 6.0 and make some big power cheaply.There is a early camaro with a ford 302 in it,Its your car put whatever engine you want and can afford.
Yea I am a chevy guy and have had about 12 69 camaros. Mostly convertibles! I always have been very impressed with the LQ4 motors. You can get them very cheap! COMPLETE from the junkyard with less than 100k on them, do the intake swap and make some serious power! There was a guy on a camaro site that put a setup together for a total of $1400(Motor and upgrades) and made just shy of 400 HP and 400 TQ That is just sick considering that you can run these engines to over 200k miles without a glitch! The 65 mustang is very light! Putting 400hp/400tq should make that puppy fly no matter what combo I put in it.

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I work for a custom car shop and our main feature is putting modern motors into classic cars. Like someone else already said, use a Mustang II front end with coilovers, and get rid of the shock towers. Anything will fit in there. We try to stick Ford with Ford and Chevy with Chevy, but customers always have other ideas and we have done some pretty outrageous combinations. The 5.0 is a pretty nice engine and even the later model 4.6 work well too. You'd be surprised what will fit in those engine bays. All our cars usually have Power Steering, and A/C. Another option is the aluminum Buick V8 215. A smaller V8 but can be built pretty tough. That is what I have in one of my cars and there is HUGE amounts of room in the bay.
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I love most all older cars but i hate the mod motor after being a tech at all state ford here.I love the ls engines they are cheap to get no dizzy helps in tight places and they fit in just about any car out there.
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Because a CLASSIC car deserves a classic motor...Not a hackjob to install a non ford engine into a Ford like a Mustang.
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Because a CLASSIC car deserves a classic motor...Not a hackjob to install a non ford engine into a Ford like a Mustang.

that's complete rubbish. While I agree mating cars with their proper brand engines...I do not like classic powertrains

Restomod is the way to go nowadays. There was NOTHING fun about driving a vintage classic with all it's vintage hardware...archaic ride, lack of power and lack of safety equipment.

Updating a classic with modern drivetrains and safety equipement is the way to breath life into an otherwise very boring riding classic vehicle.

I myself don't like the modular motors. Unless you get an 03/04 supercharged cobra motor, they simply don't make enough power to warrant the cost.

a late 96-01 5.0 explorer roller motor with make 300 at the flywheel all day long as a stock bolt in with a good intake/carb and exhaust.
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I don't want to see a chevy in a mustang any more than the next guy but as others have said before "its your car do what you want with it" as far as the swap goes I don't see a whole lot of cost effectiveness in swapping over to chevy. All that time and work to fit the motor mounts and tranny when you could have spent all that money making a bad ass 5.0 making more power.
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The reasons i hate the motor mod are blow by the egr on them is junk.And to do anything to it you gonna pull the engine.My brothers 01 crown vic had a bent valve on the right bank took me 4 days to get the engine out head rebuilt and put back.Been a small block just yank the head with it still in the car.
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