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Old 05-10-2009   #1 (permalink)
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Default 71 DS door won't open - help!

My husband's 71 sportsroof's door hasn't been operable in weeks. It's like it's welded on, it's that tight. We've tried to put a 1/8" rod into the latch assembly - no go. I took off the door panel so I could get better access, poked, pulled and prodded for almost 2 hours - no go. Please, someone has GOT to have some secret magic trick to get the door open. I'd remove the whole assembly but it looks like the screws have been stripped. Any ideas??
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It may be that the door hinges have frozen from lack of lubrication. Squirt some WD40 or white lithium grease into the door hinges using the little tube that fits into the nozzle. I found that out too, my door started getting really hard to open, and it stuck once. So I figured, maybe I should lube the hinges, and it instantly got better. Hope this helps.
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dne' here. I'm confused. is the door closed or open? The sentence below that you wrote; Now is the door open so that you can get to the screws? are you referring to the door latch screws(3 of em)? If the door is open and you do have access, you have a couple options: use a hand impact with a phillips head attachment, or drill them out. But if your door is closed, I'm certain it would be impossible to get to the screws! So, when these questions are answered, then I can think better on what's actually going on. Be specific cause the reader needs to know details.
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dne', she is asking if anybody has a trick on how to get the door open. So, if it is shut, which screws are stripped?
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My husband's 71 sportsroof's door hasn't been operable in weeks. It's like it's welded on, it's that tight. We've tried to put a 1/8" rod into the latch assembly - no go. I took off the door panel so I could get better access, poked, pulled and prodded for almost 2 hours - no go. Please, someone has GOT to have some secret magic trick to get the door open. I'd remove the whole assembly but it looks like the screws have been stripped. Any ideas??
Hello sparky 66,
Sounds like the lock is frozen. Does the key turn at all?
I like the others would suggest spraying with WD-40.
Put the can inside the door panel and spray the lock assembly.
There could be a couple of things going on here.
1. - The door is locked and not unlocking
2. -The latch assembly is frozen.

I would spray spray spray and try to see if you get any movement from
the key, rods etc.

Have you tried to unlock the door and pull on both the inside and outside handles at the same time. Also try if possible to jiggle the door as you pull the handle.

Post back....Jim
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Sorry about the confusion, here's some more details:

The key was sticking before the door quit opening all together (it's shut now). The outside handle will lift, the inside handle will pull, and the thumb lock will move up and down, but the door will NOT budge. We've tried pulling on all three at once, and shoving & pulling against the door with absolutely no success. I'm thinking the scissors that close around the door latch are actually either rusted or stuck shut somehow. I've lubed the entire assembly w/ both white lithium and WD-40. I can see the entire assembly inside the door since the door panel is off, and I can see the mechanism moving, but still nothing gives. There are also no broken pieces at the bottom of the door to give me any clues.

The screws that are stripped are the ones holding the assembly to the door . Why or why they didn't just use hexheads is beyond me.

Would a body shop be able to pry it open somehow? Mind you, the car is in the first stages of restoration, so chipped paint and a bit of denting won't be a big deal.
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OK, stuff like this kills my brain! lol So, you've tried the 1,2,3 pull from the outside, but I think the door is going to require more of an abrupt shock. I would study the other door, and its workings, and make sure the bad door mechanisms are doing the door opening, like when you push the button, the rod going to the latch is "unlatching", and the thumb lock is definitely all the way up(you already said you did, but have to recheck)! My passenger door with the slightest bump the thumblock falls downward and locks itself. Then knowing you've sprayed and soaked the latch thoroughly, and maybe even tapping on the latch from the inside of the door. This is your only access to the latch at this time, right?

Here's my idea: you don't have to do it, but it's just an idea mind you and don't laugh! lol
I'd take a piece of wood, eh, 2 x 4(there's no exact science to this), place it as close to the latch side of the door, the meatiest part of the door, from inside the car (have someone hold it or tie it up. The large area will allow more surface area to be absorbed by the door, so not to damage it(hopefully).

Ok, here's the clincher! take a 4 x 4 about 3' long, your battering ram so to speak. Like when the vikings are trying to break down the door to the castle. ( A large heavy hammer would probably work too) Someone has to push the botton and hold it down. The wood(the target) would have to be tight against the door I would certainly think. Seats are forward, and the passenger side door open to allow a moderate swing(if using a battering ram. So, now, boom boom boom! kind of tease ramming the door from the inside of the car and see what happens.

CAUTION: there is a problem with this idea! the glass could probably shatter! Maybe taping it with duct tape would help prevent. When these windows go, they shatter into tiny pieces(safety glass).

I'm alone, and just set up a mock type for demonstration.
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My second thought, or 1st thought, was to take a portapower, and use it from the inside of the mustang, pushing from the pillar on the opposite side of the bad door, use the 2x4 as above, and put pressue on with the portapower, but just enough so not to bend the door.

Right now, that's about all I got to offer, but I'm still percolating on this problem.

If you'd like to talk, call me, dne', 832-607-9116 and talk it with what ideas you have, etc.
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Hi again! FWIW~ I was sitting on my back porch, and had another thought. Personally, I know I'd probably be buying another door latch eventually when I got my door open. So, why not go ahead and order another latch, examine it thoroughly! see how to make it lock, like if the latch was locked permanently, like in your case>. See what it takes to repair the latch or what makes it tick before attempting the above idea. Brains over brawn!
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Did you lube the higne? I know you said you lubed the latch assembly, but there was a problem like this a couple months ago, where once he sprayed the door hinges, the door came free.
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Haven't tried lubing the hinges yet - will have to try that one when it's not raining, as it is now and will be all week .

Dne - THANKS for all your brainstorming!!! I like the latch idea because that's what I'm really dealing w/ here. I have to call my local supplier tomorrow anyway, so maybe I'll see if he has one laying around even!

I'll check back in when I'm able to (hopefully) note some progress.
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UPDATE: So I sent the ol' 71 to the mechanics', where after about a quart of penetrating lube and 4 hours of sitting, it opened right up.

On my way to ordering a new latch assembly, while the door still opens...
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