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Old 05-22-2009   #1 (permalink)
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I just bought a 67 with a mid 80s 302 in it and im going to tear her down and build her back up....i got a few questions first....i dont have to worry about smog so thats not a factor at all but im wondering if i can use any 302 heads in this motor? i was thinking of getting some gt40 heads since there decent price and add some decent power....also does anyone know what would be a nice cam for this engine? i like them real loopy...any and all advice is nice...thanks
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Any 302 and 351 heads fit and some 289 heads are desirable. The reason that I say some is the fact that some very early 289 heads have small valves. There is variation in combustion chamber size and some of the early 351 heads have larger valves similar to the GT40s. Early heads use the large spark plugs and there are 3 different rocker arm designs that evolved through the years. Stud mount, stud mount rail, and pedistal mount. Any of these designs can be used on a 302 as long as the correct rockers and related parts are used.

The early 351 heads will have coolant ports with a "Dog Leg" shape which will require intake manifold gaskets that are made to seal the port to a standard intake manifold.

There are some California smog heads that have external thermactor air inlets, next to the exhaust ports, that you will want to avoid, but they are rather scarce. Later heads will have larger combustion chambers and the GT40s are no exception. With standard pistons you'll get about a 9:1 compression ratio with the GT-40s. Cast iron holds heat more than aluminum, so an iron head with a 9 to 1 ratio will have the same effect as about 9.5 to 1 in aluminum.

On some later heads the exhaust ports will have internal thermactor porting and a restrictive "Hump" in the exhaust ports. The humps can be ground off. The inlet of these ports is in the back side of the heads (GT-40s, too, but not GT40Ps). They will need to be plugged with straight thread set screws or Ford's special plugs. The size is 5/8"-11 X1". If they aren't plugged, you'll have an exhaust leak facing the firewall. The GT 40P has relocated spark plugs and no thermactor ports. The plug relocation will cause clearance problems with some headers and exhaust manifolds.

You mention that your engine is a mid eighties engine. The 1986 only 302 (5.0 HO) engines have pistons that are true flat tops that don't have valve reliefs. You will need to change out these pistons or else you will run into valve clearance problems. Their 86 only heads (The engineering number cast into them will start with E6) were junk. Avoid them, they are not good for performance use. The combustion chamber design shrouds the valves.

You don't mention if your engine has a roller cam, but Comp Cams has a series of cams called 'Thumper" that are designed to have the lope that you like, but still retain drivability. I think that they are available for flat or roller tappets.

I recommed that you get a copy of "High Performance Ford Engine Parts Interchange" by George Reid, SA Design P/N SA56
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greek pretty well covered it.... +1 on the thumper cams.
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thanks for the reply good info...im going to get one of those manuals..thanks again
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I found the interchange manual to be one of my most frequently used references. There's a lot of subtle changes that have happened to Ford engines through the years and it continues to this day with the newer modular engines. (Which the manual doesn't cover). The price for this book (Around $20) is definitely worth it, especially for the guys that can't afford to just buy the latest high performance parts and has to depend on salvage yard and swap meet finds to build their engines.

I found my copy on the shelf at Books-A-Million. Barnes and Noble is another place to look for it and, of course, either one will be happy to order it for you.

Where in the world is "Boomtown USA"? You're not hiding from the Mafia, are you?
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