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Unread 09-14-2009   #1 (permalink)
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Default 1966 Ford Mustang-IFS install problems

I bought a Helix universal crossmember and the kit. Well the instructions are basic. I'm trying to find others that have installed this suspension in there car and try to get the last two measurements i need. The spindle center line. What is the height from the top front and rear of the spring perch to the center bolt hole to the lower control arm.
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Default IFS Mustang II install update

Here the thing if you read this and know anyone that's done this install into a 66 or 65 mustang I would like to get some measurements. I have some basic install instructions that would cause me to make a wrong cut and $400 gone. Please help. Ihave the tools I just wanting two measurements befor cutting. I have line draw but how close
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The problem I see is that you need to send that kit back and buy one that is made for your car. To get the measurements you need, my car would have to be almost completely apart. I put a Heidt's kit in our 66 and it was a piece of cake.
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Thats almost what i thought about getting the kit. But, by peacing the kit together the way i did i found over 20+ diff lower control arms you can use for this set up. I like the crossmembers from helix cause the were the same as the heidts kits and i have a small buget. Well if you done have measurements I still want to know what color that car is. Whats in the engine bay since you have room now. I thinking you can get one measurement, the lower control arms mounting bolt hole to the bottom of the frame that would get my crossmember welded in and that would help plenty.
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The color is 2008 Jeep Rescue Green and the engine that is in the engine compartment is...............a 350+hp 2.3 turbo engine
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WOW, that had to be had to fab the eng mounts. I think you have a blower and turbo that i see right. What are your 1/4 times
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Just a turbo. I built this car for my daughter. I just finished it. It is not built to drag race though.
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Well ill send pics of the set up tommorow. And the crossmember instructions are the same as a universal crossmember from heidts.
http://www.heidts.com/_uploaded_files/in-095.pdf

If you can read this and know how to set up the spring perches from the fab experance you might have. thanks
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WRONG ONES. THESE ARE THE INSTRUCTIONS. http://www.heidts.com/_uploaded_files/in-032.pdf
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This is some info the a fellow member sent me. I can sure use this type of info. Also this will help other going the cheaper route for this install like me.


Hi, one more thing i did to make sure I had everything right was to tack weld the cross member in place, install the control arms and spindle. At ride hide the lower control arm should be almost parallel to the ground. a 2x4 clamped under the cross member with C clamp will keep the lower control arm parallel. do a quick wheel aligment with a angle finder. the caster angle will move your wheel foward and back a little. set caster at 2-3 degree camber and toe in not very important at this point. put the fender on and wheel. if you got it right the wheel will be center in wheel well. good luck
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Here is another bit of info passed to me that im passing to you all. Later


I don't remember all of the measurements but I maybe able to measure a few if needed. If your crossmember is already notched out you could just
center it and have the same gap on the cut outs if that would work. I wouldn't worry about it sitting too low from just the cut outs in the
xmember. My front end is all together so getting
exact measurements would be hard. It is pretty simple though.The springs will take up
any gap that you have if the lower control arm is off a little. My spring caps could have moved in towards that engine a little bit more though.
Right now I have the upper arm adjusted as far as it will go inwards. To make this installation correct you need to notch out you frame rail a little and then reinforce your frame rail. See how to on Heidts website. They have a how-to on a mustang. I'm not sure if you can but you may be able to get some of the kits parts instead of buying the whole kit. I did this as
cheap as possible myself and wish I didn't go
cheap. Cheap is the worst thing you can do for this installation. It has cost me more money than
buying a kit. I only bought a xmember and upper
spring caps for $325 and I parted the rest from a MII donor. It works but could be much better for
the price.
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Default the boxing plates

Ok here is some frame boxing plates that i have cut out for the frames c-cut. 1966 Ford Mustang-IFS install problems-picture-126.jpg
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I have been a little lazy about taking pics. I finished the install last year. I didn't do the step by step instructions with pics i wanted to do for the people buying the cheap helix kits. The heidts kits are far better. I just undercoated and painted the Eng bay 2 months ago. Here are pics. If anyone wants to ask any questions or instruction problems I had please do. All the info passed to me worked thank you all.
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I have been a little lazy about taking pics. I finished the install last year. I didn't do the step by step instructions with pics i wanted to do for the people buying the cheap helix kits. The heidts kits are far better. I just undercoated and painted the Eng bay 2 months ago. Here are pics. If anyone wants to ask any questions or instruction problems I had please do. All the info passed to me worked thank you all.
Did you fab those motor mounts yourself? I'm installing a Helix kit and need to fab some. Did you keep the measurements you used to make them?

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Yes motor mount dimensions and measurements please. Also any other measurements would be beautiful. I am so stuck on my kit.
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