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Original Dearborn Radiator identification

I have a 64 1/2 mustang, build date of 19 June 64. I recently purchased a restored radiator from a mustang parts supplier that is supposed to be a May 64 Dearborn radiator, but I'm not sure it's an original.

Radiator details: Radiator 65 V8 Dearborn, auto trans, DEP C4ZE 8005 - M2, date 4ED (1964 May 4th week).

The radiator has the information above stamped along the side rail, but on the passenger side of the radiator versus the driver's side. I've only heard of the radiator identification information being stamped on the driver's side. The radiator also has rounded "tabs" at the top of the tank exactly like what you find for San Jose radiators when all Dearborn tanks I've seen are square on top. There is a rectangular metal tag (about 3/4-inchs wide, 1 1/2 inches long)soldered onto the top of the tank at the top edge of the tank on the passenger side, with C4ZE, but I know that these are reporduced and purchased through vendors like NPD, so I've discounted this tag although it's correct for Dearborn cars.

Radiators around my build date time frame were only the Dearborn radiator style as San Jose did not start up mustang production until late 64 (I think toward the end of July 64) and the Metuchen NJ plant never produced any 64 1/2 mustangs.

Any help with getting a proper ID of this radiator would be appreciated. I'll try and post pics of the radiator later tonight.


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Here are the pictures of the radiator:

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Hello. That radiator has had a lot of work done on it, like having been re-cored, but, the top and side slats are right. It would be right for an automatic transmission car with a build date like yours. The date on the radiator is the fourth week of may in 64, which would be about right for your car.
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Thanks a lot for the feedback. You have a good eye. The radiator did have an NOS core put in it, so it was restored to this extent that I'm aware of.

My concern was the shape of the top strap being rounded like the San Jose cars since I've only seen original Dearborn radiators that were squared off on top. The other concern was the location of the radiator information, being on the passenger side vice the driver's side like is usually seen.

Thanks again.
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Respectfully, the radiator you show pictures of is an aftermarket replacement with AMK tag soldiered on it and a non-factory stamped strap. Basically your restoration source did a lousy job faking a correct factory assembly line Dearborn radiator.

The AMK tag is for W-MO (Western Modine) radiators supplied to San Jose, not Dearborn or Metuchen. Note: orientation of tag is also incorrect.

Correct straps would be squared at the top, not round.

The LH-side strap on a Dearborn/Metuchen is stamped, not the RH-side.

Correct part number for Dearborn/Metuchen built V8 w/AT w/AC would be C4ZE-8005-M1, not C4ZE-8005-M2.

Here is a good link with pictures of a restored Dearborn:
Virginia Classic Mustang Blog: 1965 Mustang High Performance Convertible Project Update

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