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Default 1965 Mustang air cleaner cover trivia question

My "new" 1965 "C" code (June '65 build date) has a one-piece air cleaner cover, meaning the mid-line seam b/t the base and the top cover is sealed together. The top cover sits in the center of the top portion of the cover, so the current air filter is much smaller (about half size) compared to the top of the cover.

The PO found an air cleaner to fit the diameter of the top lid, but had to create a gasket of approx. 1/2 inch b/c the lid would not seal with the base.

This build date is a "gold" motor, but the current air cleaner cover was painted gold over Ford blue. So, apparently a replacement. (?)

The snorkel is missing, and there is no obvious connection to the motor, meaning the snorkel should sit out on its own, kinda like a 6 cylinder.

Is there a snorkel available for this cover? Should I bite the bullet and buy a new cover? If I do, what about the down tube from the snorkel that apparently connects to the exhaust (which I don't seem to have)? Are there straight snorkels without additional connections?

Confused about the current configuration and want to put it right.

Assistance much appreciated!
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this is a new one on me, all i have ever seen are a two piece top and mottom, the snorkle, downpipe and a exhaust shield that the downpipe fits into. From what you have said, I think it has the wrong air cleaner. You might look through some of the images in the gallery, or go to some of the mustang parts suppliers, like the paddock, year one,etc.
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Really curious on this one, as I don't think I have ever seen one either. Could you post a picture? Will a later '65 snorkel bolt on?
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Wait, are you saying that the only bit of the air cleaner that comes apart is the center of the lid, and then there is a larger section of the lid that doesn't open? If so, it sounds sort of like the air cleaner on the 1964 Mercury Monterey Breezeway I almost bought. It had a 390ci V8. Here is a picture of it. The second picture is of the air cleaner that should be there on your Mustang.
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Thanks Sprint66200. The first pic is what I seem to have. Like this pic, the "top" is an "insert" that fits into the top section, rather than being a complete top section that is the same diameter of, and fits completely over, the bottom section.

In the "correct" picture, the top section and bottom section are the same diameter and mate to each other, correct?

Re the snorkel, I can't see a downtube on your pic. Does it have one? If so, where does it connect? Thanks.
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Yes, on the correct air cleaner, the lid is just that top piece and it comes off, then the sides and base are one piece. As for the snorkel, I'm not entirely sure. I have a 6 cylinder and the air cleaners are completely different. I know that on v8 cars the road draft tube that attaches to the snorkel goes somewhere near the exhaust manifold.
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Thanks, if anyone knows whether this June 1965 "c" code has a downtube from the snorkel, and where it attaches, would really appreciate the info.
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Here's a shot of the snorkel off my 65. There is a downtube (not pictured) that goes to the exhaust manifold. When the manifold heats up it send heat up the tube and opens the door on the snorkel. Hope that helps.
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Thanks -- great picture. Do you know where the downtube actually attaches? Is it a small tube that fits into a hole on the manifold, like the tube that runs from the carburetor? Thanks again.
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I don't have one. You can download the National Parts Depot catalog and look up "9A603 Heat Shield, Air Cleaner Shroud". They have a picture of it. It bolts on to the RH exhaust manifold.
BTW: NPD is out of stock on that item and won't carry it anymore. Unless your going for concours restoration, your car will just fine without it. :yelpleased:
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I see it. Great, thanks. I see they're out of NOS, but looks like they have a repro for that year. Since I need to replace the whole air cleaner assy, won't be a cheap fix apparently. Hopefully I can find a good used unit.

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Another riddle...

I finally thought to pull out the Mustang Recognition Guide and looked at the engine pictures on p. 51. The air cleaner assy on my 289 "c" code (which is 2 bbl) (and an auto transmission) is the same as that on the 260 (also 2 bbl), which only came with auto transmission.

My car was built at the San Jose plant in June of 1965.

Since they weren't making 260's by then, is there a chance that they used the old air cleaner assy on this 289? Surfing the net, I've found pics of the "260-style" on other 289's. Can't tell where or when they were built, however.

Anyone with thoughts or info? Thanks.
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They used it in 1964, 1965, and 1966. All that changed was the color in 1966. In 1964 and 1965 they were gold with a black snorkel and in 1966 they were entirely blue. Honestly, I think you should get an original style air cleaner. I think too many people (including me, but the open element cleaner helps the 6 cylinder get air) have those chrome open element air cleaners.
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I agree about going to original. My problem is determining whether what I have is original or not. It seems to be a 260 cover. I think I'll look for a generic 289 cover that is a true 2-piece -- as opposed to the "insert" in the top.

If anyone thinks what I have is original, let me know.

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I can almost guarantee that it's not original to your Mustang. If I remember correctly, that was used on Mercury and Lincoln products. The 1969 Boss 429's air cleaner was similar, but it was different. It had the larger diameter bottom and sides that were one piece and they had a rubber seal around the top to seal against the hood. Then in the center, they had a smaller diameter air cleaner filter with a lid that was the same size as the filter. Here is a picture of the Boss 429 to show you what I mean.
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