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I've just purchased an original Ford small block (260/289) tri power set up for my 64 1/2 mustang (pics below). I'm looking for the Cobra "powered by Ford" valve covers correct for my engine that has the oil fill on the timing cover and road draft tube (no PVC hole), so no holes on either valve cover. It appears they are not reproduced. The Ford literature/advertisements for tri power dealer options shows these covers w/o holes, but no one seems to carry them (Cobranda, Carl's Ford parts, NPD, etc...).

Anyone know where a set can be found? The tri power set up shown is really for a 289 as it has the Holley list 2881 (center) and 2882s outboard. The air cleaner is original (vice the Galaxie style with fins that runs the full length of the cover). I've just found an original set of Holley list 2668 outboard carbs correct for the 260, but I still need the Holley 2867 center carb, so any ideas on where to get one of these would also be appreciated.

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Hello. What you will need for valve covers will be a set of the open letter Buddy Bars that they put on the 260 and early 289 Cobras. In other words, a set of real ones, not repops. They are still out there, but, they aren't going to be cheap. :nogrinner I'll check around and see what I can find for you.
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California Mustang has some nice repro's. This might get you going with the look until you find originals. Veronica is right,they will be expensive and hard to find. Good luck.
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Veronica,

Thanks, that would help a lot. I've looked all over and can't find original or reporduction valve covers that do not have holes in them for oil fill and PCV. My 260 is open emmissions that uses a road draft tube not PCV and the oil fill is on the timining chain cover, so no oil fill on the valve cover either.

I did go to Cal-Mustang's web site as suggested, but they only have the type with holes in the covers, same as all the other part suppliers.

Please let me know if you come across any original covers.
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You are in for a long look I think. This is the best I could come up with, supposed to be correct for the '65' Shelby. Were there even some made with out the holes in the covers? I know the stock ones were hole-less. This guy is one of the experts on the early Shelbys.
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When you go to the link you provided, you'll notice the spout off the oil fill cap on the valve cover of that original 65 Cobra valve cover, it's for a closed emissions system (car with PCV). The mustangs that had a road draft tube didn't have this since they were open emissions, and in some cases (like mine) the oil fill wasn't even on the valve cover but on the timing chain cover. This left some 260s and 289s with no holes in either valve cover. My original valve covers are this way.

If you look at the attached pictures of the Ford articles advertising the Cobra accessories available for Ford cars in '63 and '64, you'll see these early Cobra valve covers do not have holes for either an oil fill or PCV. This is what I'm trying to find, and they don't reproduce this style either that I'm aware of.
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Yep, my first Ford was a '64' 289 Merc Cyclone with the draft tube. I know what you're looking for. Just trying to help, give Jim a call and see what. Even those I posted were listed at $500.
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Hi again. Kind of like this? This is my car. I have the pcv on mine, though, so, it has the grommet on the passenger side, but, no hole on the driver's side, because it has the timing chain cover oil filler spout.
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Hi jsfchris, I could swear I saw a pair of these on eBay recently. You might give that a shot and take a look there because I know I've found some pretty good finds on parts from time to time on eBay.

Another thought I had which may completely ignorant is what if you got a set of standard valve covers that have the holes in them and then just plugged them with breathers? Then you could plug the tube that comes off the breathers which draws air into the head. This way no air would be going in or out. That might help you get by until you find what you're looking for.
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Thanks everyone, I got a pair of the early original Cobra valve covers thanks to Dave's tip to check with Shelby Parts and Restoration. I emailed them, and Jes with Shelby Parts and Restoration had a set on hand freshly restored (see pics). These were early pre-buddy bar 63-64 covers cast by offenhauser (unlike the later pair of Cobra covers on the Shelby Parts and Restoration web site that show "Buddy Bar" on the underside of the covers.

Thanks again for the help.
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Well I'm sure glad you found them! He has a couple of correctly restored early Shelby GT-350 motors (65 & 66)in the front lobby under glass.
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Does anyone have any ideas where to get installation instructions for Cobra accessories such as this 3x2 tri-power? I know Ford had diagrams for describing these things, but I've not seen one for the tri-power accessory. I know the coil mounted to the side of my stock carburetor on the 260 will have to move, but exactly where and what else will need to be adjusted I'm not sure about.

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I found some Ford diagrams for the install of the 289 tri-power, but they aren't very legible. If anyone has anything better, I'd appreciate it.

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I've just purchased an original Ford small block (260/289) tri power set up for my 64 1/2 mustang (pics below). I'm looking for the Cobra "powered by Ford" valve covers correct for my engine that has the oil fill on the timing cover and road draft tube (no PVC hole), so no holes on either valve cover. It appears they are not reproduced. The Ford literature/advertisements for tri power dealer options shows these covers w/o holes, but no one seems to carry them (Cobranda, Carl's Ford parts, NPD, etc...).

Anyone know where a set can be found? The tri power set up shown is really for a 289 as it has the Holley list 2881 (center) and 2882s outboard. The air cleaner is original (vice the Galaxie style with fins that runs the full length of the cover). I've just found an original set of Holley list 2668 outboard carbs correct for the 260, but I still need the Holley 2867 center carb, so any ideas on where to get one of these would also be appreciated.

Thanks.

..."I've just found an original set of Holley list 2668 outboard carbs correct for the 260, but I still need the Holley 2867 center carb"...


Hey man...I hope that is a typo and you meant the outer carb's are
list #2868......otherwise your gonna get the wrong ones for a
260-V8...

I've only seen ONE other SBF triple-duece setup...and it's in my
basement...:laughlitt


This is the info I got back from Holley on my setup about a year
ago...

"These were listed for '63-'64 MAYBE 1965 Comet, Fairlane, and
Falcon 260ci and 289ci V-8 engines.

Yes Holley supplied the carbs only.

The rebuild kit for these are discontinued and only standard single
parts like jets, power valve, bowl screws, squirter, pump, cams, etc.
are available.

-rebuild kit is #3-888 for both carb's.

The outer carb's are list #2868 are both rated @ 265cfm EACH dated 392.
Build Date; 1963,Sept.-2nd week

The center carb is list #2867 is rated @ 200 cfm and dated 391.
Build Date; 1963, Sept.-1st week

TOTAL cfm = 200+265+265= 730"

Does the top of your air cleaner have any lettering on it?

I'm just trying to figure out exactly "what" this setup was pulled off
of......

GREAT find tho...congrats!!!

Does anyone have any thoughts on what effect adding some
1-1/2" spacers under each carb would have on this setup???

Just curious...I ran across a set and just couldn't resist...


Anyway...just for grins...here it is...




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Cool Coil Mounting

I don't get what all the hoopla is about...:nogrinner...


It's just a coil...right...?...:hihi:...


It really cannot get too much simplier...
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