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Thinking of power for my 65 fastback and for $7k I think this motor is pretty hard to beat. Anyone do this swap yet?
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I think that'd be pretty darn cool. Do you have any engine dimensions? You'd probably wave bye-bye to the shock towers.
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it would be sweet, drove a new 6 spd w/373's motor does not know what redline means! I think there is a computer you can manage the VVT with as well as engine controls, saw it in car craft.
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I doubt it would fit...also you need to spend another $3K for wiring harness and ECU...not to mention all the other stuff EFI would require...in addition what transmission would you run? It might be awhile before a kit to swap all this comes along...of course if you have enough money anything can be done.
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I wouldn't use it yet its still need wait 5 years let them work the bugs out of it.Its gonna take a mustang 2 kit probably a fuel cell wiring ecu your looking another 5k to get it in and running.I would rather have a blown or turbo efi 302 it will fit fine and make more power.
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Was looking to grab motor and tranny from the Boss 302. Will do the measurements this weekend, for sure the shock towers are gone.
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Ford Racing''s new all-aluminum 5.0L Mustang crate engine is a modern 5.0L 32-valve DOHC V-8 that uses advanced features like Twin Independent Variable Camshaft Timing (Ti-VCT) to deliver 412+ horsepower @ 6500 rpm and 390 ft.-lb.+ of torque @ 4250 rpm (with premium fuel)
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The 5.0 cammer is 7k for a tiny bit more Ford Racing M6007D392FFT - Ford Racing 392 C.I.D. 430 HP GT-40 Head Stroker Crate Engines - Overview - SummitRacing.com and it will bolt in no cutting the car.
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You would sure have the "cool" factor but at a very high price. The stand along electronics go for $1500, alt kit for $210, like Andrew said, probably need the Mustang II front end, probably have to mod the trans tunnel, custom headers, and all kinds of little, expensive things. This might give you an idea.
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if you can afford it man do what makes your heart happy, but like the others say - its expensive
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You'll have to cut out the shock towers and go with an IFS like one from a Mustang II, and make some other changes, but it'll fit. It'll be expensive and take a lot of work, but the dimensions are similar to that of the 4.6 modulars and the old FE and 385-series big blocks, and that's how they fit them in the older cars.
 
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the engine alone would be a great deal if it were to swap say into an 05+ mustang that pretty much was nearly set up for that already. you're gonna spend a fortune getting it in.

FYI, a late model pushrod 5.0 with some good afr 165/185 heads and a good intake will make 325 to the wheels with ease, which is about 400 flywheel....stroke it out or put it on a 351 block and it approaches 450 flywheel hp with ease....and much much cheaper....just not the "oh wow" factor that a 5.0 coyote engine would have.
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I'll wait until the aftermarket comes out with a carb./intake for this motor before considering. Alum. block/heads combo sounds nice but I bet all the wiring, sensors, computers, etc. will add more wt. than my 289 has now with an iron block.

They already put one in a hotrod and used hilborn stack injectors with a custom made intake so it shouldn't be hard to do a carb. intake. They also made custom valve covers to hide the coil on plug setup under the VC.
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It'll just take the aftermarket a few months to get them out. Wonder what could be done to put a front sump pan on too...
7K factory RPM is tempting!
In a year they'll be some in the salvage yards so it'll be cheaper to buy/pull a low mileage used one and install.
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I'm currently in the works for putting this into my 73 Mach1. I think I've figured out all the issues except steering. The new stangs come with EPAS Electronic Power Assist Steering so this engine has only two available positions for belt driven accessories. Alternator is obvious and I wanted to add A/C but what about steering? I'm open to upgrade but I cant find anything in electric and I'm not sure about using manual steering. I looked at just using the steering from a new stang but it's backwards, new is in front of spindles and mine is in back.

Anyone have any ideas where I can get EPAS. Steering column mounted maybe? The controller for the Coyote engine has a EPAS (or AIM) harness. I'm open to any other solutions would work too.

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