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I have a 1965 Coupe 289 Mustang, original C Code. I know that it is either a 289 or 302 but would like to confirm what year model and size the engine is. Is there a way I could visually find this without having to open the entire motor?

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what are the casting numbers on the block? they are above the starter by the pan rail.

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thanks ken for the reply, it is very much appreciated. i could only see the last 5 digits without removing the starter which were 6015e is there any other way. thanks john.
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That gives a hint, sort of; 6015 is a cylinder block.

Assuming it is a small block engine and also made before 1969 the choices for an 'E' as the last letter are:

1964 260 C4OE-6015-E
65-67 289 C5AE-6015-E (including HiPo)

So, yes, it sorta looks like it is a 289 block, maybe?
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Now that you have a hint of what to look for try a mirrior or stick a digital camera up there you may be able to get some more of it. the only other way for the block would be to pull the intake if it is a 289 or 302 it will say so cast in the valley between the lifters.
Under the valve covers should be cast in 289 or 302. But that would be the heads.

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Just take the starter off its not that hard.
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thanks guys for all that information, just wanting to know for finding parts for future rebuild with edlebrock performer package top end kit , wondering if early 289 s are identical to late 289s and what are differences.thanks again john.
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hello, Late 289s only go to mid 68. They should all be the same for the mods you mentioned. Even if it was a 302 it would be mostly the same

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1st for a top end kit they are all the same and when dating a motor it is simple and works with parts also a C6OE=1966 car motor/part and would break down to a C=60's 6=year in that decade and oe says for the better part car TE would be truck. now if the first letter was D that would be a 70's and so on
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thanks guys,more concerned about block and block internals and their differences, as i am planning on rebuilding block myself,and want to start finding parts,dont want to find out that this part or that doesnt fit after i buy them, also can someone recommend the best two rebuilding books that i can buy, i have got a pretty good knowledge of machanics, thanks john.
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i have a how to rebuild a SMALL-BLOCK FORD by george reid and it is a very good book and with the 289-302 platform the crankshaft is the only real change, the 302 has a little more stroke to it for the extra few cubes
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