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Hey, what is the correct way to mount an export brace? Under the cowl lip like the factory braces, or on top of the cowl lip? I got a SD export brace, the 64-66 cowl reinforcement plate, and all the mounting hardware.
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Hey, what is the correct way to mount an export brace? Under the cowl lip like the factory braces, or on top of the cowl lip? I got a SD export brace, the 64-66 cowl reinforcement plate, and all the mounting hardware.
I have the brace on top with the reinforcement angle beneath.
The formed lips along the edge, pretty much, dictate this.
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Thanks. When I did a mock up with the export brace, it looked like the passenger side tower was ok, but the driver side looked like it has sagged close to an inch.

P.S. Can I have your E-Type? I ADORE the Jag E types. I almost got a roadster that I had found for $3200.

P.P.S How far from Rising Sun, Maryland are you? I'm going to be out there on August 13th.
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Thanks. When I did a mock up with the export brace, it looked like the passenger side tower was ok, but the driver side looked like it has sagged close to an inch.

P.S. Can I have your E-Type? I ADORE the Jag E types. I almost got a roadster that I had found for $3200.

P.P.S How far from Rising Sun, Maryland are you? I'm going to be out there on August 13th.
Hi,
The short answer, NO! you can't have my Etype. I've owned it for 37-38 years, it's like a child. I fell in love them when walking home from Jr high in the early 60s, I stumbled across this magnificent sports car. I was never the same. It took me another 10-12 years, or so, to finally own one. I paid $3K for it.
Rising Sun, Eh!. What's going on up there? I know there's a few shows going on up there, every now and again.
I live near Annapolis, that's, I'm guessing 45-50 miles south.
I'll look at my schedule for the 13th.
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yupp I believe i've seen the export brace put on both ways
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Ok, kenash can you post a picture of your set up and where you put the reinforcement bracket? I'm a member of a group and we are having a group get together at a member's house.
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Ok, kenash can you post a picture of your set up and where you put the reinforcement bracket? I'm a member of a group and we are having a group get together at a member's house.
Hi,

As I mentioned, it is mounted on top of the cowl lip. The "L" bracket is located beneath the cowl lip and welded to the firewall. You are not going to see it.
It did take some "massaging" to get the holes to line up. But, they were pretty close. Also, you can readily see the "curved up" lip on either side of the mounting flange that would prevent a 100% contact, if located below the cowl lip. But, then again, the lips could be trimed for the appropriate width, thus, forming a slot for the cowl lip to lay on top. That is, if it gives you a better angle from the towers to that point.
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Cool thanks. Is your car fuel injected? I'm trying to find a way to mount 3 weber side draft carbs on my 6.
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Cool thanks. Is your car fuel injected? I'm trying to find a way to mount 3 weber side draft carbs on my 6.
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No, real Webers. They are DCOEs (side draft) 40mm. Custom tuned for my engine's specs. Do a thorough research for your project. They ain't cheap and you won't be happy if they aren't custom designed for your engine's specs.
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My car is up in the air, and I'm waiting for the towers to migrate back out.
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My car is up in the air, and I'm waiting for the towers to migrate back out.
HI,
Good idea to let it all relax.
Have you thought about a Monte Carlo bar? to support the shock towers horizontally?
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Both the brace and reinforcing plate mount on top of the cowl lip.
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The correct way to mount the reinforcement plate is weld it to the top, I just bolted mine underneath because I don't have a welder and it seemed to work fine.
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Both the brace and reinforcing plate mount on top of the cowl lip.
Hi David,
Nice post. While your comment on the setup may have been recommended, I chose to not muck up the top part of my 64.5's cowl lip with a welded brace whose purpose would not see the full potential and stress of a track car.
In 68-71 we/I competed in several SCCA (BP class) Regional, a number of National class races and one 12 hr endurance race running a 65 2+2 track car with a setup similar to mine. We did not, experience any signs of undo stress fracturing of the firewall area. In those years, right or wrong, we felt any stress would be better spread to a lower portion of the firewall encompassing a larger area between the fenders and the and their (over all) lower center of gravity. Did it matter? We don't know. But, it seemed to work.
Was there any fracturing or undo signs of stress in 10-15 races, if so, we didn't see any.
My comments were based on our racing experience of what were to be the hot mods and best practices of the time.
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True. Even Shelby stopped adding the reinforcement in 1967.
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