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Unread 02-16-2012   #1 (permalink)
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I need help!I have swaped my c4 for a toploader in my 1966 mustang with a smallblock.I got a rug-e3 toploader with tailshaft casting number C60R-7A040-C.The transmission already had a hurst competition shifter on it.to my suprise when I installed the tranny my shifter was to far forward.What kit do I need from hurst to put my shifter in the correct spot.I called hurst and they were not much help.My car is sitting outside waiting parts,I gotta get this setup fast. thanks
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I have a 4speed toploader in my 68, with hurst super shifter 3.

Its extremly far forward, and cant sit back and shift, specialy with a short throw.

I didnt look up that shifter, but you may be required to put new holes in your tunnel, and buy a shifter that puts the nob back in the stock position so you dont need to lean forward, if thats what your saying.
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wow this is a bit more involved than i thought.I thought hurst had a adaptor plate that moved it back??
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shoud be hurst part # 373-7637. complete kit.
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Go to ebay motors and look up ebay store "hurst-shifters" He is an independent seller and rebuilder of hurst shifters located in Fort Mill, SC. He is not part of the hurst company. I have bought numerous items from him, and he is helpful, and knowledgeable. You may have to email/"ask an ebay question" to get the phone number.
I do know that almost any Hurst shifter HANDLE that is secured to the shifter mechanism itself with two bolts is interchangeable with any other Hurst handle that bolts on the same way. ( some OEM Mopar Hurst handles were a "slip in" design instead of bolt on)
You can use this to your advantage to utilize a handle that is curved more to the rear or whatever. My 67 coupe is an extreme example of this. I have a Muncie 4 speed, utilizing a hurst shifter and linkage that was for a 69 Camaro. The HANDLE is a pistol grip Mopar design originally intended for a 70 GTX. I just like the look and feel of that pistol grip, and the curvature of the handle brought it back to a comfortable position. ( It comes up through the stock mustang hole in the floor) The Mopar Hurst handle bolts to the Chevy Hurst shifter body as I previously described.
The key points I want to make with this rant are:1) If there is some type of mounting plate available out there that will help, the ebay guy I mentioned is expert, and will know about it. 2) Just changing to a different bolt - on handle may solve your problem, and it doesn't have to be one that was intended for a mustang, or even a ford. He stocks, or can quickly get, any Hurst handles made, and has pictures of many of them on ebay. Remember that the stock ( non hurst) mustang 4 speed handle had a pretty agressive bend towards the rear of the car.
Also, remember that if you move the shifter body itelf very far ( say with a different mounting plate), you will most likely need different (longer) linkage rods. Good luck.
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shoud be hurst part # 373-7637. complete kit.
That is indeed the correct P/N for the Competition Plus installation kit (linkage rods & mounting plate, no shifter assy)for a 65-73 stang with a toploader. I guess I misunderstood the OP - I thought he already had all of the Competition Plus stuff, but didn't like where the handle wound up-perhaps he has the Competition Plus setup for a different kind of ford..? Sorry.
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ya, the linkage and control box were on it when I bought the transmission, it must just be the wrong kit.Now that I think about it he said he had it in a pickup.so I need hurst part #373-7637 complete kit thanks much!!!
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