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what is the difference between an AOD and an AODE?

Hey guys. I've got a 1969 Mustang Mach One with a Lentech Automatics Street Terminator Plus transmission. Unfortunately, this hasn't been a good transmission. This is going to be my third rebuild on this transmission. Anyhow, I want to find out the differences between the AOD and the AODE. Lentech told I had an AODE type transmission. I am planning on installing a B&M Hammer universal shifter for an AOD. I have already contacted them and they told their shifter would would not work because their bracket lever kit won't work for the AODE. Based on the Lentech Automatics website, I don't see any visual difference between the two transmissions. Please anyone, if you can shed some light on this matter it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
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oh boy!!! the aode needs a computer to run it thats why it has a e in its name(stands for electronic) it is also a 4 speed the aod is a 3 speed. if you got a 4 speed auto you must get a baumman computer to run it! becontrols.com....i got one in my 94 and its great!

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Ok, I just went to Lentech Automatics website and I looked at my invoice to find out what I purchased. Anyway, It was a AOD Street Terminator Plus, not an AODE. Hey thanks for the clarifying, so if it were an AODE then I would have to run a computer on it even though my car was carberated(69 Mustang). Ok so I might just call up Lentech any way to make sure what they are advertising is correct. Oh, mine has electronic overdrive delete switch. So the overdrive delete switch wouldn't mean it was electronic,right?
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i thought that the AOD was a 4 speed that you had to shift into OD as opposed to having the computer do it. am i wrong?

my car har has P, R, N, D, 2, 1. my 83 Trans-Am had P, R, N, D, OD, 2, 1.

i could be a litttle off with the TA sequence but it def had a shift for OD not an electronic button like my car has now.

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right thats what i ment by 3 speed the shifter has 1 2 d and a aode has 1 2 3 od

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right thats what i ment by 3 speed the shifter has 1 2 d and a aode has 1 2 3 od im not to up on aods but i know there not computer controled

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Lentech AOD

I called Lentech a week ago and inquired about their Street Termintaor Plus automatic transmission. They did tell me it was an AOD with a custom built electronic delete solenoid so that a person can activate or deactivate the overdrive with a push of a button. Unfortunately, I am on my third rebuild on this transmission. I am having it done locally. I am also having the trans shop take care of the rear end. I was getting a loud hum on deceleration. I think it probably was the bearings that gave out or the lash was not properly set. That's the status on the car now.
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"AOD" = automatic overdrive = 4 speed automatic transmission. The "AOD" uses a cable (TV = throttle valve) attached to the throttle linkage to "control" transmission shifting. The AODE uses inputs from the computer to send signals to solonoids in the transmission.
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"AOD" = automatic overdrive = 4 speed automatic transmission. The "AOD" uses a cable (TV = throttle valve) attached to the throttle linkage to "control" transmission shifting. The AODE uses inputs from the computer to send signals to solonoids in the transmission.
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Plus...

the AODE and the 4r70w have different gearsets.
You can run an AODe and a 4r70w with a simple computer controller and have electronic switch on switch of from overdrive.

You can also get an AOD built to AODE or 4r70w specs....I have an AOD with a 4r70w gearset, the extra clutch packs and the larger OD band. Plus I also have some other upgrades like a solid one peice input shaft and a non-lock up converter which helps the tranny hold up better to higher HP applications

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Does the AODE gearset have the shift feel like GM's 700R4 automatic?

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Plus...

the AODE and the 4r70w have different gearsets.
You can run an AODe and a 4r70w with a simple computer controller and have electronic switch on switch of from overdrive.

You can also get an AOD built to AODE or 4r70w specs....I have an AOD with a 4r70w gearset, the extra clutch packs and the larger OD band. Plus I also have some other upgrades like a solid one peice input shaft and a non-lock up converter which helps the tranny hold up better to higher HP applications
Hey Dodestang, I was wondering what size gearset the 4r70w were. Do you think Lentech might have done this to their AOD Street Terminator Plus automatics? Also, can I still utilize the T.V. cable with the AODE internal parts with out having to put in a control module? I already have an existing overdrive delete solenoid on this AOD I am planning on rebuilding. On this up coming rebuild do you think I should use the one piece input shaft and what type of clutches should I use and how many? Is the TCI AOD valve body any good? Have had any experience with J.W. products for automatic transmissions? I am trying to see what the best internal components would be best for my AOD that will give me durability and excellent shifting. By the way did you custom build that AOD yourself or did you have a trans shop build it?
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Hey Dodestang, I was wondering what size gearset the 4r70w were. Do you think Lentech might have done this to their AOD Street Terminator Plus automatics? Also, can I still utilize the T.V. cable with the AODE internal parts with out having to put in a control module? I already have an existing overdrive delete solenoid on this AOD I am planning on rebuilding. On this up coming rebuild do you think I should use the one piece input shaft and what type of clutches should I use and how many? Is the TCI AOD valve body any good? Have had any experience with J.W. products for automatic transmissions? I am trying to see what the best internal components would be best for my AOD that will give me durability and excellent shifting. By the way did you custom build that AOD yourself or did you have a trans shop build it?
1. Gearset: 2.84 : 1 1.55 : 1 1.00 : 1 0.70 : 1
2. Lentech gearset? I dunno....you can always pick up the phone and ask...I'm sure they would build you what ever you wanted though.
3. TV Cable and AODE internals are required...you get all the plusses of an AODE in an AOD case so you need to run a tv cable and not worry about the control module.
4. YES if you have a high power application you MUST use the one peice input shaft this is where one of the primary weaknesses is.
5. I believe i have 8 red eagle clutches in the direct clutch drum
6. TCI valve body - I don't know
JW products - never heard of them, no experiences to share
7. I bought my AOD built, broke it, paid for a rebuild, broke it again, and then rebuilt again. The first break was related to a bad governor valve installed by the original builder. The second break was related to a poor valve body modification made by the original builder. I have not had a problem now that all the crap that the original builder used has been replaced.

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Transmission Update

I had my AOD rebuilt and it has been installed on my 69 Mach One. Everything inside the transmission is new. They got rid of the Lentech valve body and installed a new Ford AOD valvebody with a Trans Go shift kit with spring hardware so the firm shifting is applied at 3/4 to full throttle, new Dalenzie Lock up torque converter for highway cruising. Two piece hardened steel input shaft was installed for street driven longevity. The Trans shop said that a one piece creates alot of heat inside the transmission and wouldn't be good if I were to drive it on long trips. It would be better suited in a racing environment where the transmission is going to encounter full throttle speeds. Anyhow, now I am waiting for the driveshaft to made up and be installed.
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