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Old 10-24-2006   #1 (permalink)
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Okay, here's the deal. I have a 1967 Mustang Coupe with power steering. Recently the bracket, the power steering ram bolts to, stripped the bolt so the steering is very limited because the ram binds and caused a hose to crack about 2 days ago. I am a little sick of P/S right now and am planning to do a manual steering conversion.

I have some questions that I would like any help answering.

1. How difficult is it to convert to manual steering?

2. Does the P/S Ram bracket need to be used. (mine is broken)

3. How much could I expect to pay for the parts (idler arm, steering box, etc.)

4. And lastly, what is everything I will need to do this job.

The reason I am asking so many questions is because I have had some bad experiences with talking to the tech people through catalogs. I hope you guys don't mind helping me out. Thanks in advance.
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See if this helps any, but No you will not need the bracket.

http://www.allfordmustangs.com/forum...ad.php?t=65005
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Thanks 68 Coop, I actually searched the forums and I found that post. Thanks for the help though. I am very confused because I know a lot of people have problems with power steering on old Stangs. I also am not sure what to do with the old pump, because I need to run the same belt. I cant find a way to get a belt to go to the crank pulley and water pump pulley only; there is no tensioner.
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I also am not sure what to do with the old pump, because I need to run the same belt. I cant find a way to get a belt to go to the crank pulley and water pump pulley only; there is no tensioner.
I replied to the other post also, but here goes. When you take the old pump off, the belt should be dedicated to the pump ONLY. The alternator has it's own belt, or at least it (was) that way on my car. Maybe that's why it took a dive, too much tension on the shaft resulting in it getting too hot and boiling the fluid. Unless you have a serpentine set-up, you should have 1 belt for the PS, 1 belt for the alt, and one for A/C if you have it installed.
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To go further with what 68 Coop said, you would ONLY use the belt from the alternater. This is what was done at the factory with non PS, non A/C cars. That one belt with proper tension is enough to drive the waterpump and alternator. You don't NEED a belt to go from the crank to waterpump only.

The single belt would go around the crank pulley, the waterpump pulley and the alternator pulley. You would adjust the tension at the alternator.

Now, since your car was originally PS equipped you would have a spare groove in the pulleys now. Like 68 said you could leave it, it won't hurt anything. If looking at that extra unused groove now bothers you, you'd have to change the waterpump and crank pulleys out for single groove ones.
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Ahhhh......wow I feel pretty dumd right now. Thank you. I am so stupid not to look at the alternator. Sorry for all the questions guys I have had a hard couple weeks. My steering went out on my '67 then someone hit my'07 in a parking lot and took off before I got back to the car, so I am just under a lot of stress.

I really appreciate all of your help and I feel much better having one thing resolved now.

So thanks again everyone, you lightened my load a bit.
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don't bother pulling everything...

www.mustangcountryintl.com has a 67-70 power steering to manual steering convertor that screws into the power steering centerlink, you will have to remove the control valve (do not use a picklefork, you can sell it to offset costs), the ram, hoses and pump....or you can simpley buy another ram bracket for a lot less
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don't bother pulling everything...

www.mustangcountryintl.com has a 67-70 power steering to manual steering convertor that screws into the power steering centerlink,
I bought one of those from NPD for 145 bucks. I never used it, so if you want to go that route, I'll let you have it for 100 plus shipping.
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I wouldn't use a convertor, it induces more slop than a true manual steering system would have.
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I wouldn't use a convertor, it induces more slop than a true manual steering system would have.
I have uesd it , it does not add more slop
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