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Old 01-13-2007   #1 (permalink)
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I recently pulled my 289 out of my 68 mustang. I was looking for a new, bigger motor, i was thinking either a 306 or a 347 stroker. I am looking to make around 400-450 hp. Is anyone running either of these motors and how easy was it to make power with simple bolt on parts?
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You do know the 306 is a 302 just bigger pistons and the 347 is a 302 but bigger crank and bigger pistons. If you want 400hp go with a 347stroker. with trickflow or afr heads. then youll need a good cam
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347 will be easier to make 450 hp, and you will have 350 to 400 foot pounds of tourque.
You can make 300 to 350 hp with bolt on parts on a 302.
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don't bother aiming for that much power, the rear suspension of a 68 cant handle it. My brother had a 67 with a built 331 that put out 145 rwhp that was a hand full to drive
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don't bother aiming for that much power, the rear suspension of a 68 cant handle it. My brother had a 67 with a built 331 that put out 145 rwhp that was a hand full to drive
That all depends on which diff is in the car now, If he has a 9" which is very common he will have no trouble at all. just restore the diff with new parts. However, if it has the 8" then yes he will have problems...
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Trick, have you ever driven a classic Mustang with that much power? My brother, who was sponsored by Red Bull in karts still had his hands full driving one. The rear end is one thing, the suspension is another.
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Yeah, My 67 fastback with 390ci w/4 speed , factory HP was 335 hp But with all the go fast goodies 355 gear I was pushing over 400 ponies...
Subframe conectors helped out the most...
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BTW one thing you do not want to do is (I made a mistake) is to put thoughs damn leafspring extenders on the rear of the leafs, She really was hard to handle..
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BTW one thing you do not want to do is (I made a mistake) is to put thoughs damn leafspring extenders on the rear of the leafs, She really was hard to handle..

what are leaf spring extenders ?

I've never heard of them maybe we call them something else down here
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Shackle extenders
http://www.truckn-store.com/productI...SHA-FO9700.JPG

we used them back in the day to raise the rear of the car so we could put L60's under the finders
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I recently pulled my 289 out of my 68 mustang. I was looking for a new, bigger motor, i was thinking either a 306 or a 347 stroker. I am looking to make around 400-450 hp. Is anyone running either of these motors and how easy was it to make power with simple bolt on parts?
Ever drove a 400hp car? Probably not and niether have your buds. Horse power is great but you really don't need that much power to have a quick and fun car to drive. I took a look at the car...I'm assuming that that is it in your gallery you have a lot of work to do before you are ready for the motor, don't worry the car looks like a great project, you just have a bit of work to do.

Assuming you haven't done this before do the body work first. If you do the motor first you'll never get around the the other stuff. Be sure the car is structually sound. Pay special attention to the floor pans and frame rails. I used to live up that way (Hammond) salt eats cars up. I'd be willing to bet the underside need some attention. You need to do it for safety's sake. Horse power won't do a bit of good if you can't get it to the pavement or can't control what you have due to a poor platform. Also pay attention to the cowl vent area.

Install subframe connectors, an export brace and monte carlo bar. Upgrade the brakes, and pop for some high quality shocks and rubber and you're going to need some traction bars. None of this is cheap by the way. Along the way the wiring is probably going to need attention and the interior is probably showing its age. AFTER all that you'll be closer to being ready for that new motor.

Some suggestions on the motor-stay conservative. Sounds boring but it's not you'll be very pleased with the results. The stroker is good especially since the motor is out and your rebuilding anyway. IMO the 347 pushes the 302 block just a bit too far I'd go with the 331 instead, that's just an opinion there are a lot of 347's roaming the steets and their owners are happy with them, but a 331 will give you virtually the same performance and not push the envelope as much. Get a 600 cfm Edelbrock (pass on a Holley, 4100 Autolite is a solid choice too)vacuum secondary carb and a dual plane high rise, a good set of headers-pop for ceramic coated ones, reworked 351W or used aftermarket heads (new ones are expensive and you can pick up the heads you need real reasonable at the swap meets) and a cam that's around 270-280 on the duration and under .500 on the lift. Do that and you will have a car that's safe, fun to drive and faster than what your friends drive, you won't be pushing 400 horsepower it will be more in the neighborhood of 300-350 but you won't notice or care.

Good luck with the project.

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Thanks for all the advice guys. Your right preacher17, she has a long way to go but i am in no rush. I have the whole car pretty much planned out and ill work toward getting what i want on the car. By the way the whole suspension is going to be global west products.
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Valpo Ind?? That is popcorn country! Lived there years ago hate the snow moved back to San Diego. The windsor is a pretty good motor will fit right up, some nice stroked windsors will fit (tightly with the alum heads/intake) but you can get your power easily. Am pulling mine out that was 302 at the tires hp and 371 in torque rear wheels so hp at crank should be 360ish torque 420ish. replacing stroked windsor with a wallet draining 428 PI.
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