[Veronica]

Originally Posted by thetvirus

Is it possible to know the exact day the car rolled off the line based on all the date codes on different parts of the car? The codes on my car range from June 18 to June 23. Makes me wonder exactly how fast they put these cars together, like it took 5 days to get this car all together... or what?

Hi again. The short version of the answer would be ' No, there isn't.' The scheduled production date can be ball-parked within a day or two based on the sequential number of the VIN, but, the day that your car actually rolled off the line is lost forever without some original factory invoices.

As far as how long it took them to build the car goes, not long. . I saw a short film of Martha and the Vandellas going through the Ford factory in Dearborn while singing Dancing in the Streets. Sort of the sixties version of music videos. In the two minutes and thirty eight seconds it took to sing that song, Ford built a 65 Mustang convertible. The girls were following the car from start to finish, and Ford built the car quicker than they could sing the song.

[soccer1061287]

Veronica - First of all, let me thank you for sharing such detailed information. Secondly, my 65 coupe built in april of 65 has natural color hood hinges and my info says this is correct. Can you confirm this?

[Veronica]

Hi again. They stopped painting the hood hinges gloss black at the end of the 64 model year, so, yes, your car would have had the natural looking hood hinges.

[Sleevepin]

Looking for help with the correct outside Mirror for a 1964 ½ Mustang convertible. I have attached pictures for you to view the two mirrors I have. The mirror on the left came off a 64 mustang that I have but has a Falcon part number the mirror on the right I think is an aftermarket.

[JS73Droptop]

I am overly impressed with Veronica's knowledge. Would love to read what she knows, or has documentation on about 71-73 Mustangs.

[Veronica]

Hi again, That's very nice of you. to say that. I have almost nothing on the 71-73 cars. But, the original production records on those cars are still available at ::Marti Auto Works - 1955 - 1989 Ford Parts

On the rearview mirror thing, many of the earlier cars did seem to have come with the Falcon rearview mirror, but, it isn't considered to be correct. There could have been some supply issues very early on.

[jbmac64half]

and everyone else. I just joined and have learned so much already. I have a 64 1/2 convert. out of Dearborn (July 1964) with less than 10K original miles. I am trying to figure out how original/authentic my car is. The previous owner, an elderly gentleman & 2nd owner of the car, thinks it has most original components as it was in such great shape when he restored it in the mid 80's.

It has a 289 D code, generator, with original panels, eng/trans, distributer, carb, interior etc. How do I validate or prove this? Did they stamp all panels/doors/hood/trunk with a number. Where do I find this if it exists?

Veronica, what exactly were you talking about with the hood being unfinished, please explain? Also, my passenger seat is adjustable. Could that have possibly been done in Dearborn in July 1964? I heard this was not a 64 1/2 option.

A few other questions I have. What were the original floor mats that came with a 64 1/2 Mustang Convert.? I need some and I have seen so many different ones in these cars. What was the original color for the air filter cover and valve covers (mine are silver valve & open chrome for air which I know are not original or correct)? I also need the backing for the hood letter "D" and a windshield wiper fluid cap. Any ideas on where to get parts for a car this old would be greatly appreciated. I assume I have to buy reproductions? And finally, what is the differance between a 64 1/2 and a 65 radio?

Thanks again for any help in identifying the authenticity of my 64 1/2. Sorry for the long post.

Joe

[Veronica]

Hi again. Here are the floor mat possibilities for your car, jbmac64half.
The Care and Feeding of Ponies: Floor Mats
Your passenger side seat is supposed to be adjustable. They quit doing the non-adjustable seat somewhere around may 1st. Your valve covers and breather assembly should be gold with a black snorkel on the breather. This should help with verifying the sheet metal and stuff.
The Care and Feeding of Ponies: Date codes
The Care and Feeding of Ponies: Motor identification
As far as the hood goes, your car should have the same hood that mine does. Here are a couple of pictures. The lip shown in the pictures was folded all the way under, like the rest of the front edge, on the cars built after sometime in early to mid august.
On the radios, there were two different manufacturers used by Ford. The 64 1/2s got the radios built by either Bendix or Motorola. You can tell them apart by looking at the location of the number 10 on the dial. On the Bendix radios, the 10 is to the right of the O in Ford. The Motorola radios have the 10 to the left of the O. On both of these, the dial starts with the number 6. Sometime in mid august Ford started using the Philco radios in the Mustangs, which have a dial that starts with the number 5. Hope that helps.

[jbmac64half]

Thanks Veronica. good info.
How about telling if my panels/doors/hood/trunk are original. Did they stamp or code these in any way. How would I locate this and what exactly am I looking for?

Thanks again, Joe

[Veronica]

Hi again. There are date codes stamped on the sheet metal stuff. On the doors, you have to remove the door panel to see it. On the hood, it's down near the driver's side hood hinge. On the fenders, it's on the lip under the hood where the row of six bolts is. These dates should be consistant with the scheduled production date of the car.

[aj cates]

great stuff i just got a 65 fastback and it was produced sometime in 64 i dont have vin with me but will check back i always wounderd why they had this argument it sounds like we got a good one going now

[biglizard45]

Hey, I'm new to all this I've got one that has 1964 on the title. By the vin # it was produced in October 1964 (I think) as I read through this thread I find some of the stuff a 1964 would have and some of the stuff a 1965 would have....I'm so confused.

[Veronica]

Originally Posted by biglizard45

Hey, I'm new to all this I've got one that has 1964 on the title. By the vin # it was produced in October 1964 (I think) as I read through this thread I find some of the stuff a 1964 would have and some of the stuff a 1965 would have....I'm so confused.

Hello.

No Mustang should have a 64 title. If it now has one, someone at the dmv made a mistake. Your VIN starts with a 5, and that means that it should be titled as a 65 model car. If it was built in october, that's waaay into the normal 65 model year. They started building the 6-bolt, alternator cars in like early august.

[biglizard45]

Originally Posted by Veronica

Hello.

No Mustang should have a 64 title. If it now has one, someone at the dmv made a mistake. Your VIN starts with a 5, and that means that it should be titled as a 65 model car. If it was built in october, that's waaay into the normal 65 model year. They started building the 6-bolt, alternator cars in like early august.

Hello to you too

That seems to be what Im finding. Yes the vin starts with 5 and theres even a "65A" on the door jam plate.....but the title says 1964 Ford Mustang. It's not even 1964 1/2 just 1964. Leave it to me...eh?
Lizzy

[Veronica]

Hi again.
The 65A just means that it's a Mustang coupe with standard interior. That designation was used over several year models. A 65 convertible would say 76A there, and a fastback would say 63A. It has nothing to do with year model. Purely coincidental. If the car came with a bench seat it would be 65C, and, if it was a slightly later car, as in after late february of 65 it would have been 65B if it had come with the Interior Decor Group ( pony interior)