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Old 02-27-2007   #1 (permalink)
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Default 1966 Mustang, 289, 2V, rough idle-low vacuum corrected

Perhaps someone can benefit from my experience to help solve a rough idle and low vacuum problem that eluded me for some time.

I had my original 289, 2V engine and heads completely overhauled by an engine machine shop (recommended to me). Immediately after I started the engine, I had trouble with rough idle and low 10-11" Hg vacuum at idle (should be 18" Hg according to spec). This continued for 3 weeks while I looked for vacuum leaks and double checked “almost” everything, like carburetor, valve timing, cam lift, valve stem clearance, etc.

Compression on all cylinders was within spec at around 150 psi – which I initially though meant all the valves were okay.

Finally I did some cranking vacuum tests. First with the carburetor still on (throttle plates closed and vacuum openings taped or plugged), I got 5-6" Hg vacuum with just the starter turning the engine (coil grounded). According to my manuals, the vacuum should have been 10" Hg for a pre-emissions 1966 engine. Second, with the carburetor off and the intake manifold ports plugged (simple tapered plugs from ACE Hardware), I repeated the cranking test and got 9-10" Hg. I didn't know what the vacuum should have been with the carburetor off, but felt it should have been much higher than 9-10".

Long story, short; – The engine builder installed valve springs that were 40 lbs in lieu of 80 lbs at assembled height. Plus a lot of carbon was built up on the valve seats by this time.

With new springs and reconditioned valve seats, I installed the heads and repeated the cranking vacuum test with the carburetor off. This time I got a cranking vacuum of 20+” Hg.

The engine idles smooth now with a vacuum of 15-16” Hg. This still might be a little low, but I have not yet fine tuned the idle mixture screws and ignition timing. Plus I do have a mild performance cam so the vacuum could be an inch or so lower than the 18” specified at idle.

So if you can’t track down the reason for a rough idle and low idle vacuum, I recommend checking the cranking vacuum with the carburetor off.
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Valves seating correctly? Did you have them hand lapped and visually inspected 'before' installing them? Definately, under spec springs will affect the valve seal. Throttle plate not fully closed? Vaccuum lines anywhere on the manifold and/or carb totally inspected with no open ends.

Just a few thoughts off the top of my head
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