[Marilyn'67Stang]

Is it worth it? what are the good and bads aspects of doing that? Is it an easy job? I want to put in either a Ford T or C transmission (which would be best) with a Hurst Short shift kit. Any other recommendations?

I have a 1967 Mustang
No engine (planning to put in a Ford 5.0)

[Ravenblack67]

The first question before doing a swap is Why? If you are doing a lot of cruising and want to save money on gas, it makes sense. If you want to race, the auto is the better choice. In any case, it is somewhat difficult. The driveshaft must be modified. the rear crossmember must be replaces, the brake pedal assembly must be modified, and the engine needs a change from flexplate to flywheel. There is a good article in Mustang Monthly from last year on the swap. Several vendors sell kits. I have considered the swap many times but I decoded the cost and hassle could be put towards other things. Besides, the c4 and c6 autos are designed to manual shift and are awesome for drag racing.

[stump54]

Originally Posted by Ravenblack67

The first question before doing a swap is Why? If you are doing a lot of cruising and want to save money on gas, it makes sense. If you want to race, the auto is the better choice. In any case, it is somewhat difficult. The driveshaft must be modified. the rear crossmember must be replaces, the brake pedal assembly must be modified, and the engine needs a change from flexplate to flywheel. There is a good article in Mustang Monthly from last year on the swap. Several vendors sell kits. I have considered the swap many times but I decoded the cost and hassle could be put towards other things. Besides, the c4 and c6 autos are designed to manual shift and are awesome for drag racing.

Other than the obvious, can you explain what you mean by "designed to manual shift"?

[67stangcoupekid]

ok what he means by manual shift is like what i have....

i have a B an M speed shifter you pull it all the way back into 1st gear and then you take off the line and slam it in to the next gear an then drive... it works like a clutch car just with out pushing in a clutch....

just hold the gas to the floor an slam it into the next gear

[Sore Pancake]

First off Welcome to AFM Merilyn. Now to 67stangcoupekid, I have never heard that about the c4 and c6 trannys. Im not much of a transmission man, is the stock 3 speed auto that came with my 64 mustang a c4? I heard someone say it was but i still am not sure. And if so, what kind of Horsepower can those transmission's handle? do you think it would be enough to handle my engine(stats in my sig)? Thanks man.

[Marilyn'67Stang]

Well i want to do the swap because i enjoy manual shift over automatic. I love the design on the 67' stang and it has always been the car i wanted to work on. She's a project car, so i want to customize her to my wants and needs. Thanks for the input though. Just wanted to know what i should look out for when i do the swap since it would be my first time doing an automatic to manual transmission swap.

[krankieone]

Originally Posted by Sore Pancake

First off Welcome to AFM Merilyn. Now to 67stangcoupekid, I have never heard that about the c4 and c6 trannys. Im not much of a transmission man, is the stock 3 speed auto that came with my 64 mustang a c4? I heard someone say it was but i still am not sure. And if so, what kind of Horsepower can those transmission's handle? do you think it would be enough to handle my engine(stats in my sig)? Thanks man.

64 V8 came with a C4 it should handle your set up however it can be made bullet proof

[Sore Pancake]

Originally Posted by krankieone

64 V8 came with a C4 it should handle your set up however it can be made bullet proof

Sorry man i did not make myself clear enough. It came with a inline 6, 170in and i replaced it with the 302. I assume that the tranny will be the same. Now, do you have any ideas to make the transimission more "Bullet-Proof"?

Thanks,
Sore

[Moli]

Originally Posted by Ravenblack67

The first question before doing a swap is Why? If you are doing a lot of cruising and want to save money on gas, it makes sense. If you want to race, the auto is the better choice. In any case, it is somewhat difficult. The driveshaft must be modified. the rear crossmember must be replaces, the brake pedal assembly must be modified, and the engine needs a change from flexplate to flywheel. There is a good article in Mustang Monthly from last year on the swap. Several vendors sell kits. I have considered the swap many times but I decoded the cost and hassle could be put towards other things. Besides, the c4 and c6 autos are designed to manual shift and are awesome for drag racing.

Can anyone remember which issue?

Who are the vendors that sell these kits, I´m planing on changing my ´68 J-code fastback back to manual as it was original.

[Mustang Nazi]

What kind of trans did the 302 have in it. Autos had a different crank than sticks, The stick crank is drilled to except the pilot bearing and the front nose of the trans.

[rodbender]

The cranks were the same. The pilot bearing goes were the snout of the torque converter goes. Been there did that.

[Mustang Nazi]

You may be right, I was thinking FE crank.
Be sure to use the flywheel which matches your engine balance factor.
289's and early 302's used the 28oz. balance factor, later 302s had a 50oz.

[andrewmp6]

For a stick id go toploader or a t5 or tko600 depending if i wanted a overdrive or had a lot of power.

[Moli]

I´m going with the Toploader, I have one in my garage, along with the Hurst shifter.

But since I haven´t done this before, can anyone make a list of things/parts for me that I need to make this happen?

[andrewmp6]

If the car is a c4 you have most of everything needed already besides the z bar clutch and brake pedals and some small things i probably left out.