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Old 08-11-2008   #1 (permalink)
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Default My First Set of Slicks

I just bought a set of slicks: Hoosier bias ply 26 8 15s. They are little, but they fit in there without hitting the quad shocks. I have 'em mounted on some extra 10 hole phone dials I have.

2 questions: What PSI should I start with? What is going to break Friday night?
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How does tire pressure affect traction? Proper inflation is one of the single most important factors in the performance of a drag slick (this includes slicks of the DOT-legal variety). Traction can be dialed-in by adjusting tire pressure up or down. In order to determine how much pressure your particular tires require you must find a clean piece of pavement, preferably off the highway. Next, make sure that both rear tires have identical air pressure. Then, do a short burnout and examine the marks. As the pictures indicate, an over-inflated tire will leave a mark that is dark in the center, but light on the edges. This is known as ''crowning.'' An under-inflated tire on the other hand will show dark edges and a light center indicating that the tire is cupping. This procedure can also be used on radial tires. The final picture of this series shows what the proper pressure looks like: an even contact patch the entire width of the slick.


That’s not all there is to it, though. Small incremental changes in tire pressure can have a meaningful affect on traction. Mickey Thompson Tires recommends adjusting your tire pressure up or down in half pound increments to precisely tune your slicks to the race track's conditions. Tire pressure will affect your reaction time. Keep in mind that an underinflated tire reacts more slowly than one with more air pressure.
So, you keep reducing the pressure in your tires and your 60-foot time (also known as your short time) keeps dropping. All well and good, but you also begin noticing that the car is no longer stable on the other end of the track. Reducing air pressure in your slicks often improves traction, but often the tradeoff is reduced stabilty. They say you haven't lived until you've done the ''slick dance'' through the lights at a buck-fifteen-plus. Remember, eight pounds of tire pressure is great at the starting line, but those same eight pounds are holding up the back end of the car while you are hurtling down the track. Be sensible with tire pressure. It's better to give up a couple of hundredths of a second on your 60-foot time to avoid a catastrophe on the big end. How do you get a handle on air pressure? Don't expect to use an ordinary auto parts store tire gauge; you know, the type that fits in your pocket like a pen. The instrument used to measure tire pressure in a drag slick needs to be capable of reading accurately at low pressures. Any mail-order parts house offers a variety of good tire gauges for this purpose. Expect to pay between $20.00 and $250.00—it's a worthwhile investment.

http://www.jegs.com/p/Moroso/748767/10002/-1/10585

http://www.jegs.com/p/Moroso/963656/10002/-1/10585


with all that being said ....I'd start at 14psi

breakage.....axles, the T-5 or driveshaft

if you have not already.... i recommend a driveshaft safety loop.....
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Thanks - I've got 'em on the car experimenting. I bought a dial-type gauge to replace my "stick" ones.

I'm surprised at how much this thing still spins. I started at 18 psi and the burnout showed very dark lines on the edges of the tires and nothing in the middle. I went up to 23 and I still had dark lines at the edges and a slight black spot in between. So finally I went up to 28 (10 lbs more than where I started) and the nose lifts fairly high at launch now. I'm leaving a fairly good patch in the center now, but still have the very dark lines on the inner and outer edges.

I've read that small slicks need more air - should I go to 30? 32? How can some guys get away with the really "wrinkly" sidewalls? There is no way that will work for me. Even at 18 psi the sidewalls were no where even close to a wrinkle wall.
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I've read that small slicks need more air - should I go to 30? 32? How can some guys get away with the really "wrinkly" sidewalls? There is no way that will work for me. Even at 18 psi the sidewalls were no where even close to a wrinkle wall.

no you do not go 30 psi..... you will wear the center out of the tires

the really "wrinkly" sidewall is the result of low air pressure and massive amount of tourque

depending on track conditions i will start a 12 psi and go down from there.....

the down side to low air pressure is the squirm on the the big end
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On my 65 I also run the 26x8.5 ET Drags. I go up to the line at 11.5 or 12psi cold before burnout. (11.5 after the first run). Pulling 1.51 60's with it that way. If you still have spinning problems, then you probably need to loosen up your front end to get some weight transfer.
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i run 275-40-17's ( m/t et streets ) on my 08 and my best results so far were with 15psi in them and probably should have run them even lower but with 15 they hooked good and didn't have hardly any wiggle if any on the big end

p.s. i was hooking 1.8 60ft's with a n/a car and only minor rear suspension mods
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Thanks - I've got 'em on the car experimenting. I bought a dial-type gauge to replace my "stick" ones.

I'm surprised at how much this thing still spins. I started at 18 psi and the burnout showed very dark lines on the edges of the tires and nothing in the middle. I went up to 23 and I still had dark lines at the edges and a slight black spot in between. So finally I went up to 28 (10 lbs more than where I started) and the nose lifts fairly high at launch now. I'm leaving a fairly good patch in the center now, but still have the very dark lines on the inner and outer edges.

I've read that small slicks need more air - should I go to 30? 32? How can some guys get away with the really "wrinkly" sidewalls? There is no way that will work for me. Even at 18 psi the sidewalls were no where even close to a wrinkle wall.
are you using tubes?

I run a 28 x 8 Hoosiers on a 15 x 10 wheel wthout tubes and my tire pressure is usally around 9.5 psi cold and 10 to 10.25 hot...also if you run low tire pressure as I do, you'll need to screw the tire to the rims so they dont rotate
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