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Old 12-14-2008   #1 (permalink)
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Default 1979 Mustang 5.0, what to expect at track?

I have a 1979 Mustang with a 302.
Fresh motor/ 9.5 compression
GT40X heads/1.7 roller rockers
Edelbrock performer intake/holley 600
performer cam
1 5/8 long tube headers, flow masters/2.5"
Summit racing billet distributor and cdi/supercoil/8mm accel wires
elec. fan and fuel pump
B&M kit in c-4
3.73 with trac loc
245/45-18 yokohamas

What kind of horsepower and times can I expect to get with this setup in the 1/4?
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300-325 hp 13.5- 14 sec
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gestamation close to previous post. More info needed, ie. weight & cam specs info. 1/4 mile - 14.5 - 15.0. Weak link: tires
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weight....the sticker on the door says gvw 3871
That seems heavy..I dropped the cast intake, cast exhaust, cat, cast heads and a big box of smog stuff, ac and extra radiator....I am guessing I lost about 200/250 pounds so far. Thank god for aluminum!
The cam is 204/214 duration and 448/472 lift, but I am running 1.7 rockers so it is more like 478/502 lift.
Ford racing said it should be at just over 300 hp.
I was going by "seat of the pants feel" and it seems to run stronger than a 71 duster/340 13.7 that I had. It had 3.23 gears and street tires, crossed the line in 3rd gear.
I was hoping for a low 13....
Would a longer duration cam and larger carb get it closer to high 12's or is that unrealistic? I am looking into a set of slicks for x-mas if mrs. clause is looking the other way.
I am old school and never bottle fed a motor....I see a wet system for about $400 that says 100/125 more hp.....
is that more realistic? How many passes can you get on a #10 bottle and is it expensive?
slicks and nos....12's...11's?
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make it rev 4:10 or 4:30 in the rear drag radials
what is in the bottom of the motor? forged? if so put a power adder on it. Then it will move
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Nitrous is fun, but can get spendy

I paid around $500 for my kit (NOS)
Opened the box and the 1st thing other than the sweet blue bottle was the switch....Junk, so there was another $20....the wiring kit included was fine for some, but I HATE hack work so I needed to toss it aside as well....
I think your getting where Im going here...
Time you get the other parts (gauge, bottle heater, larger fuel pump for larger shots, etc) I was into it aprox $1000
But it was worth it.
As far as the number of passes. I dont have the book in front of me, but if I remember correctly, at 100hp, its 60 seconds per bottle. @ aprox $4 a pound. So your talking under $.70 a second
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Mid 13's would be my guess, but it would depend on your type of tires. It will all be in your 60fts......
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As far as the number of passes. I dont have the book in front of me, but if I remember correctly, at 100hp, its 60 seconds per bottle. @ aprox $4 a pound. So your talking under $.70 a second
Just one reason why I'll stay NA. At $.70/second and running the spray 10 seconds/pass, I usually make 15 passes at a test and tune day so it would cost me over $100 just in nitrous!

Plus entry fees, fuel, the inevitable parts breakage, I couldn't possibly afford to race with all that expense.
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I never made it to the track and just had to do a couple more mods. before hand, besides it doesn't open till March. That was the best excuse I could think of..lol . I tossed the performer intake and 600 holley. I went with a parker funnel web intake and a 750dbl. pumper holley, also added a comp cam extreme energy cam. 230/236 duration 550/553 lift when you figure in the 1.7 roller rockers.Then a 2500-2800 stall converter. I recurved the distributor to compensate and hope this perks it up a wee bit more. Anyone have an estimate of the HP now? 350hp and maybe into the 12's? Can't wait to see how it all works.
awe...the smell of tire smoke.....
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I never made it to the track and just had to do a couple more mods. before hand, besides it doesn't open till March. That was the best excuse I could think of..lol . I tossed the performer intake and 600 holley. I went with a parker funnel web intake and a 750dbl. pumper holley, also added a comp cam extreme energy cam. 230/236 duration 550/553 lift when you figure in the 1.7 roller rockers.Then a 2500-2800 stall converter. I recurved the distributor to compensate and hope this perks it up a wee bit more. Anyone have an estimate of the HP now? 350hp and maybe into the 12's? Can't wait to see how it all works.
awe...the smell of tire smoke.....
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ok these numbers are base a 3250 guesstimate race weight & 350 rwhp

Your ET / MPH computed from your vehicle weight of 3250 pounds and HP of 350 is 12.24 seconds and MPH of 109.43 MPH.
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probably will need a little more converter.
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probably will need a little more converter.

you are probably correct....
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12's...I could live with a 12.5 street car. I considered more converter but I was concerned about streetability. It would be easier if I was just going for a drag car. Then it would be slicks, lower gears more cam, different heads, more compression, bigger rearend, less weight..........and so on and so forth.....then a truck and trailer....I think I will be happy with the 12's.
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