Where to relocate fuel pump??

stang93mustang · 01-20-2009

I'm in the process of relocating the pump because last time at the track the car pulled the front wheels off the ground! I don't want that day to come and it yank my pump right off the car. I have a fuel cell located in the spare tire well and my first choice is to hopefully mount next to it. If it doesn't fit in there I'm at a loss of where I should put it. I know that it has to stay as close to the cell as possible? Any ideas or suggestions?? I have attached a picture to show how it is now.

Thanks in advance for the advice.

**RLG34750** · 01-20-2009

i would just mount inside next to or close to the fuel cell

have had good luck doing it that way......

can we say wheelie bars.....

cindys_sn95 · 01-20-2009

if the car gets that high the fuel pump will be the least of your worries.... it should be fine.

**RLG34750** · 01-20-2009

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Originally Posted by cindys_sn95

if the car gets that high the fuel pump will be the least of your worries.... it should be fine.

it has been know to happen.....

once again today you are right about other things to worry about

stang93mustang · 01-20-2009

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Originally Posted by rlg34750

it has been know to happen.....

once again today you are right about other things to worry about

Yes, there is that option of wheelie bars but trying to take the "cheap route" (if such a thing!) I'll start with with the relocation and go from there. Right now it does not get THAT high and when the car comes down it's pretty smoothe for the most part. (except for one time!)

I'm gonna try next to the fuel cell and pray that it fits.

Mana4Real · 01-22-2009

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Originally Posted by cindys_sn95

if the car gets that high the fuel pump will be the least of your worries.... it should be fine.

That's what I was thinking... I am thinking when it comes down you will have to worry about the K-member and the entire from suspension, not to mention the oil pan and the motor when you rip the oil pan off, then what direction your car goes when your slicks get oil all over em from the oil pan breaking... You say cheap, I say wheelie bars are required if you think your car will be coming up that high.

**RLG34750** · 01-22-2009

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Originally Posted by Mana4Real

That's what I was thinking... I am thinking when it comes down you will have to worry about the K-member and the entire from suspension, not to mention the oil pan and the motor when you rip the oil pan off, then what direction your car goes when your slicks get oil all over em from the oil pan breaking... You say cheap, I say wheelie bars are required if you think your car will be coming up that high.

based on the above on what can get broken wheelie bars are actually a "cheap" investment.....

my car was carrying the wheels last year a little higher than i cared for .......

so after i get the new combo worked out if i can't get it to leave flatter ....then wheelie bars are on my to do list

these are ones i will go with if needed....

Wolfe Race Craft - Detail

stang93mustang · 01-22-2009

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Originally Posted by rlg34750

based on the above on what can get broken wheelie bars are actually a "cheap" investment.....

my car was carrying the wheels last year a little higher than i cared for .......

so after i get the new combo worked out if i can't get it to leave flatter ....then wheelie bars are on my to do list

these are ones i will go with if needed....

Wolfe Race Craft - Detail

okay, you guys and gals are making me rethink this! I would still like to relocte the pump though. It would have a better look to me than with it hanging down like that. I only put it there in the first place because when I bought the car as a roller that is where they had it mounted.

Reg, how do I know what length to get?

**RLG34750** · 01-22-2009

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Originally Posted by stang93mustang

okay, you guys and gals are making me rethink this! I would still like to relocte the pump though. It would have a better look to me than with it hanging down like that. I only put it there in the first place because when I bought the car as a roller that is where they had it mounted.

Reg, how do I know what length to get?

i would go with 60"

just for the rest of the world

wheelie bar 101.....

Wheelie bars do more than keep the car from flipping over backwards they can also be tuned to keep just the right amount of force on the rear tires so the car can be accelerated faster.
Let's say we have a 3000 lb car that does not have wheelie bars. Keeping this very simple, when the car launches and raises the front tires off the ground then there is 3000 lbs on the rear tires (there can actually be more than 3000 lbs but let's keep this simple). This 3000lbs is the most pressure that can be applied to the tires.
If we add wheelie bars and the car launches hard enough so the car rests on the wheelie bars for a 100 ft then some of the 3000 pounds has to be "shared" by the wheelie bars. So, instead of 3000 lbs on the tires there may now be 2650 lbs on the tires and 350lbs is being "stollen" by the wheelie bars.

The amount of weight on the rear tires can change depending on the LENGTH of the wheelie bars. A LONGER wheelie bar will remove LESS weight from the rear tires while a SHORTER wheelie bar removes MORE weight from the rear tires. Depending on the car, switching from a 45" long wheelie bar to a 60" long wheelie bar can keep around 100lbs on the rear tires. So if our car in the above example started with 45" long wheelie bars and we switched to 60" long wheelie bars then we may have went from 2650lbs to 2750lbs of pressure on the rear tires. This can be better than adding an extra 100lbs of weight to the car just to get the car to hook.

*The 100 lbs is just an example and can be a lot less or a lot more since it depends on the car and how it launches.

stang93mustang · 01-22-2009

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Originally Posted by rlg34750

i would go with 60"

just for the rest of the world

wheelie bar 101.....

Wheelie bars do more than keep the car from flipping over backwards they can also be tuned to keep just the right amount of force on the rear tires so the car can be accelerated faster.
Let's say we have a 3000 lb car that does not have wheelie bars. Keeping this very simple, when the car launches and raises the front tires off the ground then there is 3000 lbs on the rear tires (there can actually be more than 3000 lbs but let's keep this simple). This 3000lbs is the most pressure that can be applied to the tires.
If we add wheelie bars and the car launches hard enough so the car rests on the wheelie bars for a 100 ft then some of the 3000 pounds has to be "shared" by the wheelie bars. So, instead of 3000 lbs on the tires there may now be 2650 lbs on the tires and 350lbs is being "stollen" by the wheelie bars.

The amount of weight on the rear tires can change depending on the LENGTH of the wheelie bars. A LONGER wheelie bar will remove LESS weight from the rear tires while a SHORTER wheelie bar removes MORE weight from the rear tires. Depending on the car, switching from a 45" long wheelie bar to a 60" long wheelie bar can keep around 100lbs on the rear tires. So if our car in the above example started with 45" long wheelie bars and we switched to 60" long wheelie bars then we may have went from 2650lbs to 2750lbs of pressure on the rear tires. This can be better than adding an extra 100lbs of weight to the car just to get the car to hook.

*The 100 lbs is just an example and can be a lot less or a lot more since it depends on the car and how it launches.

I knew you would have the answer. Thanks for the 101!

**RLG34750** · 02-06-2009

Just curious what is the final outcome on the fuel pump relocation......

stang93mustang · 02-07-2009

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Originally Posted by rlg34750

Just curious what is the final outcome on the fuel pump relocation......

I took the safety cover off to see how much room next to the fuel cell and not much at all! I believe that it is an 8 gallon tank.

Also, it's been really cold around here. Not quite thinking about working in the garage right now but atleast it will be in the mid 50's today!

**RLG34750** · 02-07-2009

i was just curious on the outcome

i here you on not wanting to work in a cold garage.....