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Ok, I have seen alot of guys on here that are dead set against street racing, and I understand the dangers of it, but at the same time a drag strip can be just as dangerous and sometimes even more so. I have raced both ways and I have never had any problems with either. The reason that I post this is the fact that Ive seen people on here get into peoples A***s about street racing, but a drag strip is only as good as the owner, yes some tracks are great, and we have several around here that are within an hour to go to, but none that are easy to get to on a daily basis. Another thing is, just because your at a track doesnt mean that its safer, maybe in larger cities there are tracks that have EMTs and Good tech guys on stand by at the track, but none around here, most of them are owned and operated by a redneck farmer that had some extra land and had a brain fart one night and decided to lay down some asphalt or concrete throw up a chain link fence and some stands, and buy a tree and call it a dragstrip. To me this is less safe than a street race because if you have a wreck street racing 99 percent of the time you are the only person in danger because you dont have 3 or 400 ppl in stands behind a chain link fence to go thru and kill. I have never raced on the streets and had that many ppl standing on the side of the road, nor have I ever seen anyone get killed or even injured street racing, although I have seen innocent bystanders at a track get killed. As for the track, most ppl have the same thoughts as that it is safer, but heres my opinion, and a factual experience, most ppl have the same mindset that it is safer at the track therefore allowing their senses to lower some and boom next thing ya know your walking across the pits and some racer who has allowed his keen senses to lower because he thought it was safer runs over someone walking thru the pits and kills them, I cant speak for everyone nor their experiences, but I have seen that happen first hand, and I do know this to be fact, I never not once have allowed myself to lower my senses or know whats going on around me, nor will I race anyone who I believe to be dangerous in that aspect, but when it comes to a track, you have no discretion on who you race, if your at a "real track" nor do you know everyone there and their tendacies. This to me has me in question why so many make such a big deal about street racing, and most street racers dont race on main roads, where there are ppl to injure, I know I know, but I could get killed street racing Right?? Theres really no more chance of that happening than going to the track, and a lot less potential to hurt someone else. It sounds to me like there are some ppl who have been watching fast and the furious waaaay too much! Oh, and by the way, where did ppl race in the 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s, and 90s? On the street, its American culture it always has been, thats what makes having a street legal car fun, its the excitement of having a faster car than your buddy and some loser in a chevy. I know Im not gonna change anyones minds and Im sure there will be plenty of arguments on this post and its contents, but I will never change my thoughts on this, because I trust my life in my hands, not in the hands of others. Oh, and not everyone races on the "street" that are called street racers, thats just a label that is put on ppl that dont race at tracks. I myself race on a piece of asphalt that is about a mile long on my friends farm, its an old road that has become very popular to race on, not a track, but an old road that has no traffic, houses, or any innnocent bystanders. This is just a place where we gather and race, old style, with someone flagging us, no stands, no tech, no EMTs. I hear ppl all the time saying that they chose racing because it requires balls, and the only ppl I know that claim this and only want to race at a track are the ppl who are not competent in their abilities to drive and are scared to get their doors blown off, usually the trash talkers and the know it alls of sorts. I have been racing this way since I was 14, and never had an accident, or injured anyone, thus I have seen several die at tracks because there are too many ppl, too much going on that the race is not all that is being focused on so just because their are EMTs and tech doesnt always mean its safer.


P.S. My cousin was one of the innocent bystanders that I witnessed get killed at a track, and a very nice track at that, They had EMTs and good tech, and it also hosts NHRA races, but it wasnt on the track that killed him, it was in the pits, a racer came thru too fast and my cousin was going to borrow a wrench from our other cousin who was just across from us and boom! Hes no longer with us. So no matter where you race the danger is iminent, you are the one who has to be safe in how you race, not where you race.
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You are 100% correct on no matter where you race there is a danger.....BUT you go to a track your doin that on your own you know the dangers that you could possibly be hit by a car or a hood fly off a car and hit you in the pits, stands, or you in the next lane causing you to hit the wall.......Now street racing for those that do it where there is people around that are not knowing there lives are in danger....a car coming down the other lane on the interstate, a kid riding his bike down the street, a family in a car on the road with you.....im not sayin that these people that say take it to the track are not guilty of it trust me we all are to some point they are just sayin keep it at the track where the people around you know that freak accidents do happen that they made the decision to come to the track.....
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Ok, I have seen alot of guys on here that are dead set against street racing, and I understand the dangers of it, but at the same time a drag strip can be just as dangerous and sometimes even more so. I have raced both ways and I have never had any problems with either. The reason that I post this is the fact that Ive seen people on here get into peoples A***s about street racing, but a drag strip is only as good as the owner, yes some tracks are great, and we have several around here that are within an hour to go to, but none that are easy to get to on a daily basis. Another thing is, just because your at a track doesnt mean that its safer, maybe in larger cities there are tracks that have EMTs and Good tech guys on stand by at the track, but none around here, most of them are owned and operated by a redneck farmer that had some extra land and had a brain fart one night and decided to lay down some asphalt or concrete throw up a chain link fence and some stands, and buy a tree and call it a dragstrip. To me this is less safe than a street race because if you have a wreck street racing 99 percent of the time you are the only person in danger because you dont have 3 or 400 ppl in stands behind a chain link fence to go thru and kill. I have never raced on the streets and had that many ppl standing on the side of the road, nor have I ever seen anyone get killed or even injured street racing, although I have seen innocent bystanders at a track get killed. As for the track, most ppl have the same thoughts as that it is safer, but heres my opinion, and a factual experience, most ppl have the same mindset that it is safer at the track therefore allowing their senses to lower some and boom next thing ya know your walking across the pits and some racer who has allowed his keen senses to lower because he thought it was safer runs over someone walking thru the pits and kills them, I cant speak for everyone nor their experiences, but I have seen that happen first hand, and I do know this to be fact, I never not once have allowed myself to lower my senses or know whats going on around me, nor will I race anyone who I believe to be dangerous in that aspect, but when it comes to a track, you have no discretion on who you race, if your at a "real track" nor do you know everyone there and their tendacies. This to me has me in question why so many make such a big deal about street racing, and most street racers dont race on main roads, where there are ppl to injure, I know I know, but I could get killed street racing Right?? Theres really no more chance of that happening than going to the track, and a lot less potential to hurt someone else. It sounds to me like there are some ppl who have been watching fast and the furious waaaay too much! Oh, and by the way, where did ppl race in the 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s, and 90s? On the street, its American culture it always has been, thats what makes having a street legal car fun, its the excitement of having a faster car than your buddy and some loser in a chevy. I know Im not gonna change anyones minds and Im sure there will be plenty of arguments on this post and its contents, but I will never change my thoughts on this, because I trust my life in my hands, not in the hands of others. Oh, and not everyone races on the "street" that are called street racers, thats just a label that is put on ppl that dont race at tracks. I myself race on a piece of asphalt that is about a mile long on my friends farm, its an old road that has become very popular to race on, not a track, but an old road that has no traffic, houses, or any innnocent bystanders. This is just a place where we gather and race, old style, with someone flagging us, no stands, no tech, no EMTs. I hear ppl all the time saying that they chose racing because it requires balls, and the only ppl I know that claim this and only want to race at a track are the ppl who are not competent in their abilities to drive and are scared to get their doors blown off, usually the trash talkers and the know it alls of sorts. I have been racing this way since I was 14, and never had an accident, or injured anyone, thus I have seen several die at tracks because there are too many ppl, too much going on that the race is not all that is being focused on so just because their are EMTs and tech doesnt always mean its safer.


P.S. My cousin was one of the innocent bystanders that I witnessed get killed at a track, and a very nice track at that, They had EMTs and good tech, and it also hosts NHRA races, but it wasnt on the track that killed him, it was in the pits, a racer came thru too fast and my cousin was going to borrow a wrench from our other cousin who was just across from us and boom! Hes no longer with us. So no matter where you race the danger is iminent, you are the one who has to be safe in how you race, not where you race.
That's probably the stupidest comment I've heard this week, and I hear a lot. There is a difference between stupidity and having "balls".
I'm not really trying to BASH on you but what you are saying doesn't make much sense... You wanted peoples opinion so here's mine...

The first thing that comes to my attention is that you were "street racing" at 14?! I wouldn't even let a 14 year old drive me to the gas station for a pack of cigarettes, let alone race a 14 year old on the street.

Second, I hate to hit a soft spot, but your cousin gets killed in the PITS at a drag strip, therefore you think the strip is more dangerous than "street racing"?! I've been to these "organized" street racing things and seen how people act with their cars when they are or aren't racing and it's just plain stupid sometimes.

How is having EMT's at the strip NOT safer??? So if you or one of your buddies crashes their car and gets seriously injured you'd rather not have an EMT there??

Here is my biggest point... Let's forget that "street racing" is totally illegal and MORE DANGEROUS than at the strip... If you're racing your buddy down what you have guessed to be a 1/4 mile, how does anyone know who really wins if it's a close race. The tree at the strip says who either jumped the gun (red lighted) or was sleeping (late start). There is also a CLEAR finish line to show who won.
Example: The last time I went to the track i raced a buddy with a Cobalt SS. I beat him to the finish line by a nose, but the time slip says his quarter mile was faster. So this tells both of us who is really faster and who is actually the better driver.

I'm not going to lie and say I've never street raced, but that was back when I was younger.
Do a Google search on street racing and read about all the "accidents" that have happened because of people that think "street racing" is safer or more fun.
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You are 100% correct on no matter where you race there is a danger.....BUT you go to a track your doin that on your own you know the dangers that you could possibly be hit by a car or a hood fly off a car and hit you in the pits, stands, or you in the next lane causing you to hit the wall.......Now street racing for those that do it where there is people around that are not knowing there lives are in danger....a car coming down the other lane on the interstate, a kid riding his bike down the street, a family in a car on the road with you.....im not sayin that these people that say take it to the track are not guilty of it trust me we all are to some point they are just sayin keep it at the track where the people around you know that freak accidents do happen that they made the decision to come to the track.....


I agree with you on that point, you are right, but not all street racers are willing to put others lives in danger, I will not race anyone that wants to race where it is a possibility of endangering someones life. Heres an example, We race on a road called L shaped ( and it is shaped like an L ) but this road is 3/4 of a mile on the bottom leg and there are no side roads, it dead ends, and there are no exit spots. There is never any travelers on that road except for racers, or some high school kids trying to make out at the dead end, and we always drive to the end to make sure no one is there. We also have Orange cones that we use to block off the entrance to the dead end and always leave someone there to make sure no one comes down the road in our way, therefore us being the only ones there, which goes back to what you said about the track, the only ones there are the ones who choose to be, and we all know the danger. Im not defending the idiot street racers like the ricers in fast and the furious, I would never allow that kind of stupidity around me nor would i be a part of it. If i cant find a good road to race on where there is no danger except to the ones of us participating, then we just dont race, period. The lives of others is always my first concern then the lives of the people who are participating, then Mine. Sensibilty goes a long way, and putting others saftey before your own pays off by not allowing anyone to get hurt.
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That's probably the stupidest comment I've heard this week, and I hear a lot. There is a difference between stupidity and having "balls".
I'm not really trying to BASH on you but what you are saying doesn't make much sense... You wanted peoples opinion so here's mine...

The first thing that comes to my attention is that you were "street racing" at 14?! I wouldn't even let a 14 year old drive me to the gas station for a pack of cigarettes, let alone race a 14 year old on the street.

Second, I hate to hit a soft spot, but your cousin gets killed in the PITS at a drag strip, therefore you think the strip is more dangerous than "street racing"?! I've been to these "organized" street racing things and seen how people act with their cars when they are or aren't racing and it's just plain stupid sometimes.

How is having EMT's at the strip NOT safer??? So if you or one of your buddies crashes their car and gets seriously injured you'd rather not have an EMT there??

Here is my biggest point... Let's forget that "street racing" is totally illegal and MORE DANGEROUS than at the strip... If you're racing your buddy down what you have guessed to be a 1/4 mile, how does anyone know who really wins if it's a close race. The tree at the strip says who either jumped the gun (red lighted) or was sleeping (late start). There is also a CLEAR finish line to show who won.
Example: The last time I went to the track i raced a buddy with a Cobalt SS. I beat him to the finish line by a nose, but the time slip says his quarter mile was faster. So this tells both of us who is really faster and who is actually the better driver.

I'm not going to lie and say I've never street raced, but that was back when I was younger.
Do a Google search on street racing and read about all the "accidents" that have happened because of people that think "street racing" is safer or more fun.


Well, I never said it was safer, They are both equally dangerous, but my point was that street racing isnt any more dangerous if you always put the saftey of others first. And I wholeheartedly agree about the organized street racing, I am against that 100 percent, and what we do is usually 2 or 3 cars, less than 10 ppl and always on a road where there is no danger except for those participating. Such as the example I gave in my last post. The organized crap you hear of is the most unorganized thing I have ever seen, I went to one of those a few years back in Memphis, and yes it was full of idiots that had no care for others safety, and i will never go back to another event like that. I am not defending idiocy, but defending those who put safety above all else, if I see a danger of possibly hurting someone, I dont race, period its that simple. As far as an EMT being on site, not to insut yours or anyone elses intelligence, but an EMT can only do so much, and my girlfriend is a Registered Nurse and is ALWAYS with me when I race so yes, I feel just as safe as I would be at the track as far as that goes. I dont know if people know much about EMTs and Nurses but my girl is much more qualified to handle emergency situations than an EMT. I yes I know its illegal, but I myself would rather put my life in my own hands than the hands of others. As for racing since I was 14, yes I was and I could drive better then than most of the ppl 10 or 15 years my elder, I have been around racing all my life and I drove dirt track cars when I turned 13, I have a cousin right now who is 12 and Ill put him up against anyone who wants to race him, I trust his driving more than most anyone i know, because I know who taught him to drive, the same uncle that taught me. Age is only a number time and again this has been proven thru history in many things, its all about the proper training and ones ability. It also has to do alot with maturity, and even at 12 my lil cuz is more mature than most 20 and 21 year old and he knows more about cars, suspension set ups, and driving than most ppl my age. My uncle that taught us to drive used to drive rail cars and sand dragsters, he also has owned and operated his own racing shop for almost 30 years and has forgotten more about racing and cars than most of us will ever learn. Like I said Im not defending the idiots that put others life in danger with wreckless abandon, but I will defend those of us who always put safety first. I will never allow anyone around me who wants to act a fool and wants to race, my life and the life of my friends mean more to me than that.
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Look guys Im not trying to insult tracks because I attend them and I agree that a good track is safer than organized street racing. What I dont agree with is a track always being safer, like I said a track is only as safe as the ppl who own it and attend the track. Put one unsafe person at a track and all hell can break loose, just as it can in a street race, I know there are plenty of ppl to argue that point, but its common sense that a place is only as safe as the ppl running it, heres another example, Go to a hospital that you havent checked out first of that you dont know, once there you find out that it has a history of patients getting staf infection, I dont know if any of you know how this happens but staf is bacterial, it is caused by uncleanliness, so therefore if the hospital doesnt have clean doctors, nurses, and cleaning staff then thats what happens and someone could possibly die from it, just like racing at a track. Once again, a track is only as safe as its owners and attendees. Make sure you read my original post again before ya reply, I said that there are good tracks out there, and Im not bashing those or those who attend them, but I am those that are mom and pop that have no safety guidelines or those that say enter at your own risk, no thanks to that, that tells me there have been accidents of extreme idiocy there and thats when I say that a street race is just as safe, especially if I am in it. My girl always rides with me and I would NEVER put her in danger and being an ER nurse she has seen it all and knows how safe my friends and I are with it, so she is all for riding with me and racing with us. Another point that I would like to make about the whole age thing that was brought up, thru history men wouldnt race women because they thought they werent capable of racing cars, but in all actuality they were scared to get beaten by a woman and anyone who thinks that age or gender makes a difference is probably scared too. Heres some good examples Shirley Muldowney, Ashley Force, and Danica Patrick. And with Danica, Robby Gordon actually protested racing with her in her rookie year because she was female and "cant handle the rigors of racing" a direct quote from Robby the idiot. One last thing, if your not bracket racing then reaction time, and 60 ft times really dont mean anything, winning is winning, it dant matter who gets off the line faster or makes it to 60 ft faster, lol. It MATTERS who gets across the finish line first. Who honestly brags about I got off the line faster than you, ever tho you beat me by 2 seconds???? I dont need to brag about my reaction time, I know exactly what Mine is because I have bracket raced and I dont race clocks, I race cars!!! period!
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Ok, I have seen alot of guys on here that are dead set against street racing,

Yes i would be the one leading that parade and will continue to do so

The reason that I post this is the fact that Ive seen people on here get into peoples A***s about street racing, a track are the ppl who are not competent in their abilities to drive and are scared to get their doors blown off, usually the trash talkers and the know it alls of sorts.


With regard to competency i have had my NHRA license for many years so there goes that theory out the window....

with a car that runs sub 10 sec times i'm not too worried about some kid with a car running 15.5's blowing my doors off

I have been racing this way since I was 14, and never had an accident, or injured anyone, .

Consider yourself just lucky

P.S. My cousin was one of the innocent bystanders that I witnessed get killed at a track, and a very nice track at that, They had EMTs and good tech, and it also hosts NHRA races, but it wasnt on the track that killed him, it was in the pits, a racer came thru too fast and my cousin was going to borrow a wrench from our other cousin who was just across from us and boom! Hes no longer with us.

I am very sorry for your loss.....

But on the other hand he could been killed by a foul tip at a baseball game just as easy....


i you see i have cut and pasted the parts that are relevant

also i will be moving this to the drag section so other "real racers'"will have a chance to respond.....

Bottom line is yes you can get hurt on the track.....

But the environment is designed to minimize the risk...

MY final statement is .......

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no mater how you slice it, the chances are far greater to be hurt or killed on the street. its just that simple!
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I don't street race and never have. I agree whole-heartedly with Reggie's sig. If there is one thing I have taught my children is not to street race. My Son does it on the track, and my daughter will too when she wants to finally go. Dragstrips are controlled environments, streets are not. And don't even get me started on the kids who just street race their cars without even checking tire pressure. If you think you feel better by trying to justify yourself, you are wrong. And one day you might be dead wrong. Which we hope will never happen......

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i you see i have cut and pasted the parts that are relevant

also i will be moving this to the drag section so other "real racers'"will have a chance to respond.....

Bottom line is yes you can get hurt on the track.....

But the environment is designed to minimize the risk...

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Ok Reggie, you got on that one, but really how many guys out there have their NMRA, NHRA, IHRA, NASCAR, INDY or whatever other license it may be??? There are a slim few ppl with those. As far as a track being designed to minimize the risk I believe that I have already covered that, and I want bashing the "good" tracks out there because there are some darn good ones, but I was saying that street racing is no more dangerous that the tracks that most everyone has to go to like the ones around here, There are no EMTs, no safer Barriers, and the "tech guys" are a bunch of toothless shadetree rednecks that think they know cars! These are what Im comparing to, Not NHRA, NMRA, or IHRA santioned tracks, unfortunately we dont have any near here and all we have are mom and pop tracks, So like I said, I would rather put my life in my own hands than that of some retard that cant even back their car up without someone flagging them. Its my opinion, and if ya choose to say that Im not a "real racer" because I occasionally find myseld on a deserted dead end road or a road that has been left to rot due to interstate taking its place then so be it, but When there is no traffic period on a road and no one there except the one participating then I dont see anything wrong with it, Its not illegal to race on abandonded roads that the state has left to rot, just those that are traveled by other motorists, and Since I do know a little about safety and the consequences of not being safe I believe I can get a few freinds together and race on these desrted roads just a safely as one of the mom and pop tracks that these ppl have around here. And lastly, you said it yourself, its just as easy to get hit in the head by a foul ball than it is to die racing, bottom line, its doesnt matter where you race theres always that chance and the chance for others to get hurt. As for the Sanctioned tracks, my cousin was killed at a NHRA sanctioned track walking thru the pits, so just because tracks are "designed" to lower the the risk dont mean they always do, just like not all ppl who race on the street put every oncoming motorist in danger, I agree there are some ppl out there that sholdnt even be behind a wheel at a track or on the streets, but there are some of us who do everything possible to make it safe for us and other motorists. Its all about opinion, and everyone has a boat to jump aboard of, Im just not convinced that one is safer than the other when it comes to street racing and the tracks around here. I have been all over the country to "santioned tracks" and I have always witnessed some idiot racer who thinks they own the track and is a danger to all, I have not been to NOT ONE, that there hasnt been that guy or girl for that matter, did someone always get hurt, no but the possibility was just a high as a street race. Maybe your track and some of the others on here isnt that way, but i have seen it way too many times to say honestly that one kind of racing is safer than the other and I cant bash anyone who does it. As for everyone on here arguing this, how many have street raced? How many still does it and are just joining the bandwagon saying how dangerous street racing is? I dont know but I would bet quite a few, and that in itself is what makes racing anywhere dangerous, Liars, cheats, and ppl who dont have any resoect for themselves let alone anyone else or their well being. I wasnt trying to insult anyone who goes to the track and nor will I ever, because like you said they are designed to be safer, but just because they are designed that dont always mean a track is safer.
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"with a car that runs sub 10 sec times i'm not too worried about some kid with a car running 15.5's blowing my doors off"

Are you talking about me Reg?
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no mater how you slice it, the chances are far greater to be hurt or killed on the street. its just that simple!


Really?? Try telling that to my cousins brothers and sisters and his wife and kids, He had been racing since he was 16 on the street and never had a incident of any kind, and after 2 years of being on the track scene he was killed in the pits of all places. He was 27 so tell his wife that 11 years is a far greater risk than 2. Im sure she would argue that with you as well as tracks being that much safer, everyone keeps mentioning an EMT at the track, if a person has life threatening injuries there is nothing that an EMT can do other than try to keep that person comfortable till Air Evac comes in and gets them to the hospital, its just that simple. And Im sorry that i dont have much faith in EMTs but how can I when their capabilities are not much greater than a first resonder, I know this because I have several friends that are EMTs and they will tell you that basically its a title given to someone who can take blood pressure and do on spot checks, a paramedic is what everyone confuses an EMT with and they are 2 totally different ppl. Thats like comparing a CNA to an RN! So really if you have that much faith in a CNA that drives an ambulance more power to you, but I would rather take my chances with my RN girlfriend who can actually save a life and keep someone alive if need be, which it has never been anywhere I have raced on the streets. Like I said, tell that to my cousins wife, Im sure she will be happy to argue that point with anyone who wants to argue the track therory.
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Guys Im not trying to insult anyone for going to a track, not at all! I will say this tho, if you have never experienced the death of someone you love whether it be at a track or on the street you cant honestly say one is more dangerous than the other, and like Reggie said, You can be just as easily hit and killed by a foul ball, it doesnt matter where your at or what kind of racing that you do, its just as dangerous either way, thats the bottom line. period. As for street racing, its just as easy to get killed by someone running a red light and T boning you, Arent stoplights designed to make traffic stop, just like tracks are designed to minimize the risk of racing?? The answer is yes, but time and time again it has been seen that not one is safer than the other, as for street racing, I have never seen anyone killed from it, and the only ones that I have seen in videos or even heard of were acting a fool just before they died, so it all boils down to being safe and thinking about the well being of others above all else and in some cases whether it be on the street or at the track someone can and will get killed. Ignorance and idiocy are the real killers, not the type of racing.
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[quote=lilduececoupe77;1504602]Ok Reggie, you got on that one, but really how many guys out there have their NMRA, NHRA, IHRA, NASCAR, INDY or whatever other license it may be??? There are a slim few ppl with those.
That's why they make Test & Tune nights. So people like me with a 15 second car can go out and safely have a good time, I can also race my car club buddies legally and safely.

As far as a track being designed to minimize the risk I believe that I have already covered that, and I want bashing the "good" tracks out there because there are some darn good ones, but I was saying that street racing is no more dangerous that the tracks that most everyone has to go to like the ones around here, There are no EMTs, no safer Barriers, and the "tech guys" are a bunch of toothless shadetree rednecks that think they know cars!
I keep feeling like you consider the EMT's, safe barriers, and tech guys to make drag racing more dangerous or something... That's like someone telling me that seat belts kill people.

These are what Im comparing to, Not NHRA, NMRA, or IHRA santioned tracks, unfortunately we dont have any near here and all we have are mom and pop tracks, So like I said, I would rather put my life in my own hands than that of some retard that cant even back their car up without someone flagging them. Its my opinion, and if ya choose to say that Im not a "real racer" because I occasionally find myseld on a deserted dead end road or a road that has been left to rot due to interstate taking its place then so be it, but When there is no traffic period on a road and no one there except the one participating then I dont see anything wrong with it,
I understand that some states don't have any or maybe one track, and I think that is kinda stupid. Drag strips should be like representatives... There should be a certain amount of tracks per the size of the state and the population. BUT, that still doesn't make street racing right.
Think about this... You somehow found these deserted roads, that means that there ARE people that CAN travel by. Maybe some guy that's lived there for forever and takes that road instead of the interstate or some out-of-towner that got lost. IT CAN HAPPEN, and it only takes one time to screw up.

Its not illegal to race on abandonded roads that the state has left to rot,
I would like to see this in writing...

As for the Sanctioned tracks, my cousin was killed at a NHRA sanctioned track walking thru the pits,
You can't punish the whole world for one persons mistake. That means, don't think that happens at every track. People die every day from things that could have been prevented... Example: When two people are street racing and hit an innocent driver and kills the innocent driver, and the racer gets out without a scratch.
If anything, that incident should scare you away from street racing especially.
I'm sorry about your cousin, but your reasoning makes no sense. Again, think about all of the people that have been killed because of two "street racers" that thought they were on a safe road.
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Just remember, you asked for everyones opinion, I don't think anyone is BASHING you. But they are disagreeing with your opinion about street racing.

If that accident that happened to your cousin in the Pits at a strip, then it could happen just as easy at one of your "abandoned" roads. Again, your reasoning doesnt' make sense.
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You are 100% correct on no matter where you race there is a danger.....BUT you go to a track your doin that on your own you know the dangers that you could possibly be hit by a car or a hood fly off a car and hit you in the pits, stands, or you in the next lane causing you to hit the wall.......Now street racing for those that do it where there is people around that are not knowing there lives are in danger....a car coming down the other lane on the interstate, a kid riding his bike down the street, a family in a car on the road with you.....im not sayin that these people that say take it to the track are not guilty of it trust me we all are to some point they are just sayin keep it at the track where the people around you know that freak accidents do happen that they made the decision to come to the track.....


Im glad someone understood what I was talking about! lol

Ill tell you guys this, come down to Texarkana and Ill gladly take you to the tracks around here and I will bet after seeing them and how they are run you will agree that you would rather take your chances on a deserted road somewhere! Anyone who is racing on the street and doing so in a manner of causing harm to another person is wrong, but when those are not possible scenarios then I myself see nothing wrong with it. Its really all opinion.
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