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Old 08-22-2009   #1 (permalink)
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Well, my buddy finally convinced me to go to the track and see what I could do. With the mods listed in my sig, I honestly felt that I would do a little better than what I did. Maybe it's just my pride, . Anyway, the best I could get out of it was a 15.229 @ 92.26 mph with a 60' time of 2.261.

Now that he has put the drag bug in me, I have been looking into what I need to do to make me go faster. Obviously, I spent most of my time spinning the street tires and a good set of drag tires and a lot more practice on my part would certainly help me out. My wish list includes M/T ET street radials and rear control arms, sub frame connectors, 70/30 struts and 50/50 shocks.

I honestly think that with the engine mods I already have and my wish list I could make this a high 13 second car. Am I wrong in thinking this optimistically?
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seat time!!

e7s arent helping anything...

traction like you said

more seat time
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seat time!!

e7s arent helping anything...

traction like you said

more seat time

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X's 3. Drop that 60' and that will help alot but it takes some practice. DR's don't mean crap unless you heat them up in the water box real good and know how to slip the clutch while giving it gas when the tree hits the last yellow before green, so you don't spin so bad.
Def get some better heads too. With what you have now and what you run, i could see maybe some mid/high 14s
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Obviously, the largest area in need of improvement is my driving skills. The biggest problem I was having was rolling in the staging lights. Having 3 pedals and 2 feet working all in synch is something to proud of for sure. Something that I have yet to perfect. Only a LOT more practice can change that and that, will come in time. Tires, I can change now.

I really want to go kick my buddy in the knee for putting the bug in me.
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I'm planning on heading back out tonight (weather permitting) for a little more seat time. Rolling in the staging lights was a big issue for me last week and I don't have a line lock installed. I thought about using the e-brake to hold me in place and to pre load a little. Is this a bad idea?
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I'm planning on heading back out tonight (weather permitting) for a little more seat time. Rolling in the staging lights was a big issue for me last week and I don't have a line lock installed. I thought about using the e-brake to hold me in place and to pre load a little. Is this a bad idea?
yes using the e-brake is very bad idea.....

i run a 5sp car i only use the line lock for the burnout....

i don't understand your problem of staging the car.....

basically it just like stopping the car at a traffic light.....

light the second bulb take your foot off the brake and wait for the last yellow......

Then proceeded with total abandon...........
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yes using the e-brake is very bad idea.....

i run a 5sp car i only use the line lock for the burnout....

i don't understand your problem of staging the car.....

basically it just like stopping the car at a traffic light.....

light the second bulb take your foot off the brake and wait for the last yellow......

Then proceeded with total abandon...........
Could it be that the track is not level in the staging area and causes him to roll?

Check the tire pressures also, maybe drop them alittle to get more bite. Drop in the rear and raise in the front for less rolling resistance.
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while staging the car, i lit the second light, took my foot off the brake and rolled on thru for nice big red light. tried it a couple different times and still had the rolling issue. I'll try letting some air out of the rear and see how that works. what kind of pressure should i consider?
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while staging the car, i lit the second light, took my foot off the brake and rolled on thru for nice big red light. tried it a couple different times and still had the rolling issue. I'll try letting some air out of the rear and see how that works. what kind of pressure should i consider?
Start around 30psi. Really no need to do burn out on street tires, just learn to be consistant (as best you can) on slipping the clutch off the line.

You don't really want to go too low of pressure with street tires because that will make it unsafe.
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Could it be that the track is not level in the staging area and causes him to roll?
I doubt seriouly the track is not level....

but there is a remote pssibility

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while staging the car, i lit the second light, took my foot off the brake and rolled on thru for nice big red light.
Sounds like the engine is pushing the car though the beam.....

try after pre stage just get the second bulb just flicker on make sure the clutch is fully depressed....


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tried it a couple different times and still had the rolling issue. I'll try letting some air out of the rear and see how that works. what kind of pressure should i consider
Taking air out out of the tire will not make a difference and by doing so you will create other problems......
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The first time my son went to the track he was having a problem with rolling through the staging light. After watching him closely I came to the conclusion that he was moving into the beam too fast, and when he hit the brakes, then let up the car was still moving just a bit, enough to roll the light.

He didn't think that was the problem, so I ran a pass in his car and didn't roll the beam. After that he didn't have a problem with it. Every once in a while us old farts know what we're talking about. Personally I approach the pre-stage beam pretty slow, but I really creep up on the stage beam.

I've had my share of red lights but they weren't because the car moved when i didn't expect it to. They're usually because of brain farts. You'd think I'd know by now to sit still when the other car is getting the head start, but every now and then.........
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Sounds to me the rolling is momentum from the prestage bulb being lit. You might need to look into a line lock.
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Every once in a while us old farts know what we're talking about. Personally I approach the pre-stage beam pretty slow, but I really creep up on the stage beam.

I've had my share of red lights but they weren't because the car moved when i didn't expect it to. They're usually because of brain farts. You'd think I'd know by now to sit still when the other car is getting the head start, but every now and then.........
How true all of the above is.......

If he thinks he has problems now let him try and stage a car with a line lock.....

i know very experience racers that go to 60' with the front brakes locked up using a line lock staging....

nix on the line lock idea just take your time when you stage the car
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How true all of the above is.......

If he thinks he has problems now let him try and stage a car with a line lock.....

i know very experience racers that go to 60' with the front brakes locked up using a line lock staging....

nix on the line lock idea just take your time when you stage the car
+1 on that! You all ready have enough on your mind let alone remembering to turn the line lock off on launch.
Line locks good for burn outs only (My opinion)
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