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Old 09-14-2009   #1 (permalink)
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I have been told to watch out for dead hooking and am not familiar with the term. Can someone explain?
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I have been told to watch out for dead hooking and am not familiar with the term. Can someone explain?
Dead hooking is zero tire spin when you launch the car.

Which will result in the car falling on its face(bogging)
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Dead hooking is zero tire spin when you launch the car.

Which will result in the car falling on its face(bogging)
How could you make sure that that does not happen. Too low of tire pressure?
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Or if you have enought car under you this could happen on a dead hook. Rapidmotorsports Trans Am on a T&T night at Maple Grove.

Wheel Standing Trans Am!
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Or if you have enought car under you this could happen on a dead hook. Rapidmotorsports Trans Am on a T&T night at Maple Grove.

Wheel Standing Trans Am!
Yea, I don't think his tires slipped any!
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How could you make sure that that does not happen. Too low of tire pressure?
adjusting tire pressure is one way........

suspension set up (weight transfer)

higer launch rpm (generating more tire speed)

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Or if you have enought car under you this could happen on a dead hook. Rapidmotorsports Trans Am on a T&T night at Maple Grove.

Wheel Standing Trans Am!
That wasn't a dead hook that was just a massive amount of power.....
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[quote=RLG34750;1711877]adjusting tire pressure is one way........

suspension set up (weight transfer)

higer launch rpm (generating more tire speed)


Okay now I'm confused and sometimes that don't take much.

How would the suspension cause the tires to just absolutely grip without sliping, then you mentioned higher lauch rpm. If higher rpm wouldn't that increase chances of wheel spin instead of dead hooking?
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Okay now I'm confused and sometimes that don't take much.

How would the suspension cause the tires to just absolutely grip without sliping, then you mentioned higher lauch rpm. If higher rpm wouldn't that increase chances of wheel spin instead of dead hooking?
for example if you have you front shock set a 90/10 it will shift the weight quicker to rear tire that if the were set at 70/30

so the dynamic pressure on the tires would be less and they would spin more....

yes higher rpm would promote more tire spin......
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Or if you have enought car under you this could happen on a dead hook. Rapidmotorsports Trans Am on a T&T night at Maple Grove.

Wheel Standing Trans Am!
Am I crazy ? or that car only ran a 12.2 ?
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When i had some MT's a few years back, it dead hooked when i launched at 2K rpms and it fell hard on bogging. Next round, i launched at 3Krpms and it hooked withoug bogging.
You just have to play with all of it, like mentioned to get the best run/time with minimal spin/bogging.
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Am I crazy ? or that car only ran a 12.2 ?
I didn't notice that until you said something but he shut it down. Wheelies do slow your times but not that much.
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It was a violent run. Car was never to go that high. Our bad on the setup. It was a Friday Street night and the car was set up for a slippery track without the wheelie bars. Off the trans brake and the car stood up, short shifting the 1-2 made it go higher. Came down hard about 1/8 mile and bounced several times. Out of the gas at mid track and coasted across the finish line. Broke the brand new headers and smuched the oil pan. Lucky no oil leakage. Car went 9.65 back then (2003?). Looking to break 9.20's this fall. Not too shabby for a NA LS1 engine.
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I think I got it now. I have 90/10's in front and have the rear set at 50/50 to start with. No front sway bar this time. I am increasing the tire pressure to 12psi this time to start. The tires wrinkled a LOT at 9psi. I really need 28" tires but I have 26's so they are going to get ran hard....thanks for the input. Damn nice wheel stand in the video. Too bad it came down so hard.
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It was a violent run. Car was never to go that high. Our bad on the setup. It was a Friday Street night and the car was set up for a slippery track without the wheelie bars. Off the trans brake and the car stood up, short shifting the 1-2 made it go higher. Came down hard about 1/8 mile and bounced several times. Out of the gas at mid track and coasted across the finish line. Broke the brand new headers and smuched the oil pan. Lucky no oil leakage. Car went 9.65 back then (2003?). Looking to break 9.20's this fall. Not too shabby for a NA LS1 engine.

Ouch, that doesnt sound like a nice landing.
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