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Old 10-04-2009   #1 (permalink)
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Default Drag racing my 2006 Mustang GT convertible - burnout advice

Hi, everyone.

Thinking about taking my '06 GT convertible drag racing to really see what it can do.

Have spectated loads of time before but never participated, so I read the really informative Drag Racing 101 thread.

Back in the UK, I have a Mk 2 Granada fitted with a modded 302 small block. This is an auto & with drum brakes on the rear it was just a case of stomping on both the gas & the brakes to quickly enter smoky burnout nirvana

My GT is a 5-speed. Drag racing guides reccomend a short burnout & I'm assuming that this should be a static burnout to heat up the tires rather than laying rubber down most of the track like a top fueller.

So does anyone have a step by step guide on how to burnout in a stick car without toasting the clutch?

Thanks very much.

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when i burnout with street tires i'm really just trying to clean them off not bake the heck out of them. so i rev it up to 2-2500 then quickly let out the clutch and roll on the gas pretty hard to about 3/4 throttle then stop before the staging lights. at some tracks they get pretty annoyed if you do a top fuel style burnout and go way past the staging line. so if your unsure of the local rules i would stop your burnout before the stripe.
if you did want to do a longer brake stand style burnout then i hold the brake and roll on the gas with my right foot to about 2500 rpms then let the clutch out quickly and add generous amounts of throttle then if you want to drift forward gently ease off the brake the biggest thing to remember is to
TURN OFF TRACTION CONTROL!!!!!
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You dont need to worry about doing a burnout if you have street tires, its mostly for slicks. Street tires and a manual tranny are going to spin the tires no matter what so just let the clutch out alittle faster with a little lighter gas to avoid this. You dont want to be sitting there spinning your tires at the line, but like I said, a burnout really does nothing to help traction on regular street tires. Anyone who says different just doesnt know much about racing.
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when i burnout with street tires i'm really just trying to clean them off not bake the heck out of them. so i rev it up to 2-2500 then quickly let out the clutch and roll on the gas pretty hard to about 3/4 throttle then stop before the staging lights. at some tracks they get pretty annoyed if you do a top fuel style burnout and go way past the staging line. so if your unsure of the local rules i would stop your burnout before the stripe.
if you did want to do a longer brake stand style burnout then i hold the brake and roll on the gas with my right foot to about 2500 rpms then let the clutch out quickly and add generous amounts of throttle then if you want to drift forward gently ease off the brake the biggest thing to remember is to
TURN OFF TRACTION CONTROL!!!!!

i can agree with that, although you should also take into account track conditions and weather as we are getting into the fall season, a little longer burn to ensure the tires stay warm couldnt hurt. i dont possibly see how heating up the tires could hurt you in any way. i have run many cars on street tires and passed up the burnout box once... i never did it again because it was like driving on ice. just my.02
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Or what you could do is purchase a Line-Lock Kit. SLP i think makes one for our cars. It locks your front brakes alowing you do just hit the gas pedal to do a safe burnout. Heres a link for the kit. http://www.latemodelrestoration.com/item/SLP-M25001

I have not purchased one of these line-locks for my 07GT yet but i do have it on my Lightning and i love it.

But to burnout with my 07GT i just rev the car up a few times then let the clutch out and stomp the gas for a bit. (Just make sure your looking at your RPMs and not red lining the car causing the Limiter to start)

I dont like to hit my brake to much b/c it could be stressful on your brakes.I mean if you got the power for the car im sure you can sping the tires without applying the brakes. Sometimes i see new comers to the track who go into the brunout box and throw the clutch out, hit there brakes so hard that u can see the car bucking to a stop and there not watching there RPMs so there hitting the rev limiter like a crazy person.

& like above said, TURN TRACTION CONTROL OFF!!! Very Important!!! Ive also seen people try it with TC on and you can hear a horrible clunking/cracking sound.
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Or what you could do is purchase a Line-Lock Kit. SLP i think makes one for our cars. It locks your front brakes alowing you do just hit the gas pedal to do a safe burnout. Heres a link for the kit. 05-06 Brake Control Kit at LRS - Same Day Shipping!

I have not purchased one of these line-locks for my 07GT yet but i do have it on my Lightning and i love it.

But to burnout with my 07GT i just rev the car up a few times then let the clutch out and stomp the gas for a bit. (Just make sure your looking at your RPMs and not red lining the car causing the Limiter to start)

I dont like to hit my brake to much b/c it could be stressful on your brakes.I mean if you got the power for the car im sure you can sping the tires without applying the brakes. Sometimes i see new comers to the track who go into the brunout box and throw the clutch out, hit there brakes so hard that u can see the car bucking to a stop and there not watching there RPMs so there hitting the rev limiter like a crazy person.

& like above said, TURN TRACTION CONTROL OFF!!! Very Important!!! Ive also seen people try it with TC on and you can hear a horrible clunking/cracking sound.
thats awesome.... wonder if they sel something like that for the older mustangs... i kinda doubt it but it would be nice!!!!!
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I haven't raced mine yet, but I am in the same boat.. On a dry street, I have problems doing a prolonged burnout with the supercharger.. I either hit the limiter, which kills power for about half a second, ending the burnout, or I shift and continue but by that time I am doing about 50 mph.. not good for burnouts..

I chatted with a buddy who races his 5 speed and he does a 2nd gear burnout from the waterbox.. I was curious about this so I drove around until I found some asshat with his sprinklers watering the street and waited for traffic to clear. I rolled through and at about 5 mph in second punched it and sure enough I had a ton of control over throttle (unlike first gear) and had the tires smokin pretty good.. I could easily have applied brake with my left foot if I had wanted to really get the tires hot, something I could never do in first because I would redline in about 1 second.. I am no good at heel-toe on this car..

Just never try a second gear standing burnout if the tires aren't wet.. it's a quick way to burn up a clutch, especially if you have good tires and good suspension..

I don't care what kind of tires you have, if they are hot and sticky they will hook up far better than if they are cold and hard..
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I haven't raced mine yet, but I am in the same boat.. On a dry street, I have problems doing a prolonged burnout with the supercharger.. I either hit the limiter, which kills power for about half a second, ending the burnout, or I shift and continue but by that time I am doing about 50 mph.. not good for burnouts..

I chatted with a buddy who races his 5 speed and he does a 2nd gear burnout from the waterbox.. I was curious about this so I drove around until I found some asshat with his sprinklers watering the street and waited for traffic to clear. I rolled through and at about 5 mph in second punched it and sure enough I had a ton of control over throttle (unlike first gear) and had the tires smokin pretty good.. I could easily have applied brake with my left foot if I had wanted to really get the tires hot, something I could never do in first because I would redline in about 1 second.. I am no good at heel-toe on this car..

Just never try a second gear standing burnout if the tires aren't wet.. it's a quick way to burn up a clutch, especially if you have good tires and good suspension..

I don't care what kind of tires you have, if they are hot and sticky they will hook up far better than if they are cold and hard..
I never tried a 2nd gear burnout. I have Mickey thompson 265/40/18s being shipped this week and wanna get to the track with them ASAP. Should i do the 2nd gear burnout as well? Ill be in my race tune with 100-octane and 2degrees more of timing so a little more power.
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I thought the reason you aren't supposed to do burnouts on street tires is not because it doesn't help you, but because you can get water in your treads and end up getting water down the rest of the track, making it a problem for guys with slicks. I could be wrong on that though
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I thought the reason you aren't supposed to do burnouts on street tires is not because it doesn't help you, but because you can get water in your treads and end up getting water down the rest of the track, making it a problem for guys with slicks. I could be wrong on that though
well some tracks the people with street tires dont go in the brunout box with the water. Usualy theres a side for them to burnout.
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thats awesome.... wonder if they sel something like that for the older mustangs... i kinda doubt it but it would be nice!!!!!
Yes they do. I had one in my Buick GS back in the 70s'. Ok mid 70's so I don't feel quite as old.
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Thanks for the advice - sounds like 2nd gear is the way to go.

Now I just need to get to Gateway before the season ends
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Yes they do. I had one in my Buick GS back in the 70s'. Ok mid 70's so I don't feel quite as old.
off subject, but...
a gs 400???? just curious because a neighbor of mine had one with a 472 in it... it was so fine looking
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a gs 400???? just curious because a neighbor of mine had one with a 472 in it... it was so fine looking
'65 Skylark Gran Sport. Name was shortened to GS a few years later. Factory called it a 400 due to the GM limit of 400cid in a midsize car. Engine was actually a 401 "nail head" taken from Buicks full size cars.
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'65 Skylark Gran Sport. Name was shortened to GS a few years later. Factory called it a 400 due to the GM limit of 400cid in a midsize car. Engine was actually a 401 "nail head" taken from Buicks full size cars.
niceeeeee... i love the way that car looks, perhaps because it was the first introduction to true nat. asp. hp
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