Hi there i'm looking for a bit of help, we have looked at a yellow Stang, and it's says its a 302 on the side. would like a bit of feed back on what spec this would be, and what are the bad things on one to look for before we go ahead and purchase it. It will be our first american car sorry for the ignorance but i suppose we all have to start somewhere.
many thanks Liz
Hi there i'm looking for a bit of help, we have looked at a yellow Stang, and it's says its a 302 on the side. would like a bit of feed back on what spec this would be, and what are the bad things on one to look for before we go ahead and purchase it. It will be our first american car sorry for the ignorance but i suppose we all have to start somewhere.
many thanks Liz
So you and the car are in England? I hope you have a good car and can join the Mustang Fold!
A bit more information would be handy (by the way, you can also post digital pictures if you have any - this often explains a lot).
The Year, Model and Make of the car helps a lot. If you don't have anything else, the year manufactured would be the most important.
Also, is it a convertible, a fastback, or a coupe?
The "302" is a good clue, but is it a decal or a metal insignia?
In general terms, the 302 was a motor that was used in the late 60's on up, with the last 302 being a 5 litre ("5.0") in 1995. As you can see, this motor was in production for over 40 years, in a variety of trims.
I'll continue speculating...
If the car has a black stripe and the words "Boss 302" on the sides, it MAY be a very rare and collectible car. Also very expensive (upwards of 50,000 pounds in pristine condition). These cars originally came in a yellow and black combination.
The places to look for rust, for instance, on ANY car is around the trim and glass - any bubbling under the paint or a vinyl roof would indicate rot there. These cars have heavy doors - they often start to sag with age, which will cause them to wear through the paint at the back lower edge of the door's opening. This is a sign of mis-alignment and worn out hinges.
I could go on forever, but we really need more info to make it worthwhile.
Get back with us (I believe there are some local stangers in the UK who post here in our regional Europe forum). I also understand that there's a strong Mustang Club presence in the UK. We can hook you up with some local crazies, er, mustang fans like us.
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i do appoligise, the car is a ford mustang, 302 boss yellow with black stripes, 2005 model. i'm sorry i dont really know much about ford mustangs yet. i will post a picture of it, its very nice indeed lol.
What you have is a 2005 Mustang GT with a Boss 302 kit on it. The kit includes such things as the (probably nonfunctional) hood scoop, the graphics,quarter window scoops, some custome paint touches, and larger size wheels and tires (18" or 19" - perhaps 20" - can't really tell from the photo). It may or may not have modifications to the engine - if you show us underhood pic's, I can tell).
The historical model this concept is based upon is the old Boss 302 of the late 60's. At that time, it refered to the size of the motor (302 cubic inches, or about 5.0 litres). Your car has a 4.6 liter engine, so I suspect it refers to 302 "hp", which is about what the stock 4.6 3 valve motor produces at the flywheel (rear wheel horsepower is about 265 with a manual transmission).
Its possible that this is a car that has a stroked 4.6, which might just barely reach 5.0 litres of displacement, though I believe this is doubtful (and would mean the car is no longer covered by any factory Ford warranty).
One thing to check on are any modificaitons which might be included on the motor, and a list of similar modifications to the interior.
These cars come with few options, being offered in a "deluxe" version (nice way of saying base model) and a "premium" model.
Desireable options on the premium package include leather interior, Mach 1000 audio system, and a system that allows you to play with the backlighting on the instrument panel.
If the car does not have these options, no problem, the base model is still well-appointed - it just makes a diffierence in value.
Speaking of which, how much are they asking for the car.
Such a car over here, purchased new from a reputable Ford dealer, would run around $32,000 american dollars. A more basic GT, with all stock accessories, would run closer to $24,000. Since the car is a year old, I'd expect at least a 15% discount, if not more, depending on mileage and any defects.
The car looks in near-new condition, and is only a year old, so it should have few problems. A small number of the very first cars made had problems with the rear control arms (noisey).
I'll bet you don't see many cars like this Mustang over there!
This is not an "official" Ford model, ie, its a colleection of parts some dealers and aftermarket folks are selling. Nothing WRONG with that, mind you - your example appears rather nice, imo.
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Originally Posted by Lizzy
i do appoligise, the car is a ford mustang, 302 boss yellow with black stripes, 2005 model. i'm sorry i dont really know much about ford mustangs yet. i will post a picture of it, its very nice indeed lol.
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tripleblack
"You can never be free until you let yourself go."
It is one of the cheeper ones over here, they are asking £20'000.00 done around 7 thousand miles newly imported over here. we will be the first owners in England one owner in the states. Some of them are asking up to £45000. for a John Rouch..... i have added a few more pics
Many thanks Liz
It is one of the cheeper ones over here, they are asking £20'000.00 done around 7 thousand miles newly imported over here. we will be the first owners in England one owner in the states. Some of them are asking up to £45000. for a John Rouch..... i have added a few more pics
Many thanks Liz
OK, its obvious it costs a lot to ship one over there, but...
Lets see, #20,000 is $36,000 American.
A 2005 in top condition with 7000 miles on the odometer goes for $25,230 (with every option except Automatic Trans.). Add on the wheels and tires for $2000, the graphics for $400, the kit for $1000, and you have...
$28,630, about a $7,000 mark up - and that includes shipping her to the uk, plus whatever duties and tariffs they charge.
If that #20,000 is "drive out", not too bad a deal.
If you want the car to run like the Rousch Stage 2, no problemo, we can get you the parts - and for a lot less than 25,000 pounds more!
Ford has a performance pak for the cars that really helps, as well as some handling bits that can make it hug the earth better.
If you're interesed in joining a Mustang Club in the UK, check out the MCA site at www.mustang.org , look for the "regional clubs" listing - they used to have a list of international clubs there as well.
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tripleblack
"You can never be free until you let yourself go."
it has auto transmision too. are they better in auto ???
The Automatic Overdrive Transmission is a smooth, quiet item. Doesn't add a lot to resale value (maybe a few hundred quid), but easier to manage in stop and go driving. In this country, the 5 speed versions are considered more desireable, and are thus harder to find. Ford recently offered mustangs with "free" AOD's (they usually cost a thousand dollars or more) as a promotion to sell more automatic transmissions.
The cars actually run faster in the quarter mile (after some appropriate tuning) with an automatic, but it requires reprogramming the shift firmness and rpm points.
I like both versions, personally, and if I had my way I'd have one of both. The automatic for cruising and commuting, the 5 speed for blasting down the country lanes and for the odd trip to the track.
Really, its all up to your preference. The 5 speed shifter is a weakness on these cars, in my opinion, and an item I would replace first if I bought one (my personal car has a close ratio Steeda shifter, which is a bit notchy but far superior to the rubbery Ford shifter).
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tripleblack
"You can never be free until you let yourself go."
We really cant thank you enough for all youre help. We are seriously going to have a good look at her now. I will let you know if we have her and i will post you plenty of photo's. If it doesnt turn out to be a very good car, which one would your prefferance be instead of the 302 Boss we have seen. I also like the grey gt but not sure on the other half.
Many many thank again, hopefully have news for you soon lol
added pics of our two cars we have to part ex on one
Mitz Evo VI and Mitz VR4 galant estate
We have a term for shopping for Mustangs - "Mustang Fever".
Once you catch it, its hard to shake.
I realize the Mustang probably looks exotic to you guys, but to us, they are just about the least expensive sports car available over here. Used 2005 GT's (without the fun graphics and perhaps a few thousand more miles) go for under $20,000. I just looked at a 2003 Cobra (supercharger, 6 speed, 500+hp) for $19,500, low miles, like new condition. Top speed limited by the ZR rated tires and a governor (which I have the programmer to defeat, of course), 0-60 under 5 seconds, etc. With air conditioning, power everything, and a killer stereo.
Americans really don't know how good we have it.
We're all upset because we're paying almost $3 for a gallon (not litre) of gasoline, more than $1 of which is tax. We can buy cars for under $20,000 that will embarass the performance of $150,000 exotics day in, day out - street, strip or track.
I wish the interiors of Mustangs were as jewel-like as Audis; that the transmissions were as silky smooth as Jaguars; and that the fit and finish was as tight as Lexus. But those cars all cost LOTS more than the good old Mustang! I own an ML500 Mercedes, and its a great vehicle for many things - but I reach for the Mustang keys if I'm doing anything other than commuting in stop and go traffic.
I have about 1/3 the money invested in my Mustang that the Mercedes represents, and I get about 3 times the fun out of the Mustang that I will ever experience from the Mercedes.
You only get to go around once.
Good luck with the Mustang. It would be a real kick to take her around Europe. I know some crazy Finns who would throw a fit over that car.
Best of Luck! When it comes time to make it go fast(er), let me know - that's where the secret of Mustang ownership REALLY comes to life! Inexpensive bolt ons, to create unbelievable gains in performance.
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Originally Posted by Lizzy
We really cant thank you enough for all youre help. We are seriously going to have a good look at her now. I will let you know if we have her and i will post you plenty of photo's. If it doesnt turn out to be a very good car, which one would your prefferance be instead of the 302 Boss we have seen. I also like the grey gt but not sure on the other half.
Many many thank again, hopefully have news for you soon lol
added pics of our two cars we have to part ex on one
Mitz Evo VI and Mitz VR4 galant estate
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tripleblack
"You can never be free until you let yourself go."
We have a term for shopping for Mustangs - "Mustang Fever".
Once you catch it, its hard to shake.
I realize the Mustang probably looks exotic to you guys, but to us, they are just about the least expensive sports car available over here. Used 2005 GT's (without the fun graphics and perhaps a few thousand more miles) go for under $20,000. I just looked at a 2003 Cobra (supercharger, 6 speed, 500+hp) for $19,500, low miles, like new condition. Top speed limited by the ZR rated tires and a governor (which I have the programmer to defeat, of course), 0-60 under 5 seconds, etc. With air conditioning, power everything, and a killer stereo.
Americans really don't know how good we have it.
We're all upset because we're paying almost $3 for a gallon (not litre) of gasoline, more than $1 of which is tax. We can buy cars for under $20,000 that will embarass the performance of $150,000 exotics day in, day out - street, strip or track.
I wish the interiors of Mustangs were as jewel-like as Audis; that the transmissions were as silky smooth as Jaguars; and that the fit and finish was as tight as Lexus. But those cars all cost LOTS more than the good old Mustang! I own an ML500 Mercedes, and its a great vehicle for many things - but I reach for the Mustang keys if I'm doing anything other than commuting in stop and go traffic.
I have about 1/3 the money invested in my Mustang that the Mercedes represents, and I get about 3 times the fun out of the Mustang that I will ever experience from the Mercedes.
You only get to go around once.
Good luck with the Mustang. It would be a real kick to take her around Europe. I know some crazy Finns who would throw a fit over that car.
Best of Luck! When it comes time to make it go fast(er), let me know - that's where the secret of Mustang ownership REALLY comes to life! Inexpensive bolt ons, to create unbelievable gains in
performance.
The phenomenon which you have just referred to is reflected in the Ford GT. This car costs 33% of the Porsche Carrera and the Mercedes McClaren...but is every bit as good, if not better.
302 Mustang need a bit of help 
