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Default Pelosi stands firm against offshore drilling

Don't count on Pelosi for any sympathy.
Even during Katrina there wasn't a spill from the off shore platforms, Besides there is side drilling. What is with these people? Out of touch.

WASHINGTON: Upon entering Congress in 1987, Representative Nancy Pelosi quickly became part of the solid California front against oil drilling along much of the nation's coast.
The 1969 Santa Barbara oil spill and the steady push to tap the potential reserves off the state's rugged coast had galvanized Californians and made opposition to offshore drilling part of the political DNA of up-and-coming figures like Pelosi.
She repeatedly resisted oil drilling in marine sanctuaries off the state's coast near her San Francisco district and, after joining the Appropriations Committee, was an advocate of reinstating the coastal drilling ban through spending restrictions each year.
"We learned the hard way that oil and water do not mix on our coast," Pelosi told a key committee in 1996 as she made her case for keeping the ban in place before a Congress then controlled by Republicans.

Pelosi stands firm against offshore drilling - International Herald Tribune
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THIS IS NOT A DRILL

Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi, or as she is called on the Big Dogs blog, "the worst speaker in the history of Congress," explained the cause of high oil prices back in 2006: "We have two oilmen in the White House. The logical follow-up from that is $3-a-gallon gasoline. It is no accident. It is a cause and effect. A cause and effect."

Yes, that would explain why the price of oral sex, cigars and Hustler magazine skyrocketed during the Clinton years. Also, I note that Speaker Pelosi is a hotelier ... and the price of a hotel room in New York is $1,000 a night! I think she might be onto something.

Is that why a barrel of oil costs mere pennies in all those other countries in the world that are not run by "oilmen"? Wait -- it doesn't cost pennies to them? That's weird.

In response to the 2003 blackout throughout the Northeast U.S. and parts of Canada, Pelosi blamed: "President Bush and Rep. Tom DeLay's oil-company interests." The blackout was a failure of humans operating electric power; it had nothing to do with oil. And I'm not even "an oilman."

But yes -- good point: What a disaster having people in government who haven't spent their entire lives in politics! That explains everything. A government official with relevant experience or knowledge about an issue is obviously a crisis of gargantuan proportions.

This must be why the Democrats are nominating B. Hussein Obama, who finished middle school three days ago and has less experience than a person one might choose at random from the audience of "American Idol."

Announcing the Democrats' bold new "plan" on energy last week, Pelosi said breaking into the Strategic Petroleum Reserve "is one alternative." That's not an energy plan. It's using what we already have -- much like "conservation," which is also part of the Democrats' plan.

Conservation, efficiency and using oil we hold in reserve for emergencies does not get us more energy. It's as if we were running out of food and the Democrats were telling us: "Just eat a little less every day." Great! We'll die a little more slowly. That's not what we call a "plan." We need more energy, not a plan for a slower death.

But there's more! Pelosi announced that the Democrats also plan to push for "an historic investment in biofuels, efficiency, conservation and the rest." The "rest" is apparently what she called our "important and essential" investment in alternative energy.

That certainly would be historic: We would make history by throwing our money away on unproven energy boondoggles that have eaten up untold billions since the 1960s without producing a single net kilowatt of power while we all starve to death.

The proposal to use energy sources that don't yet produce any energy is like the old New Yorker cartoon with Obama in Muslim garb -- no wait, that was a different cartoon. The cartoon is: A scientist has written out his extremely complicated theory on a blackboard and is showing it to another scientist. The theory consists of numbers and characters and takes up the entire blackboard. About two-thirds of the way across, reading left to right, appear the words, "then a miracle happens," followed by more numbers and characters.

That's the Democrats' plan to run cars on biofuels, solar and wind power: Then a miracle happens. The current Democratic mantra on energy is: "We can't drill our way out of this problem." Apparently their plan is to talk our way out of this problem.

Democrats are also alleging that the oil companies are sitting on millions of acres of oil but are refusing to drill -- presumably because oil company executives hate the American people and perversely don't want to make money. Manifestly, those acres are being explored for oil or have already come up dry.

If the Democrats really wanted oil companies to find more oil, they'd allow oil companies to drill offshore and to drill in ANWR, which we happen to know is bursting with oil.

But they don't. They don't want drilling. They don't want more oil. They want humans to ride bicycles and then to die. We deserve it: We were mean to the polar bears.

It's good to know that in the middle of a crisis, the Democrats are still liars. As long as we're fantasizing about "alternative" energy sources, what we really need is a car that runs on Democrats' lies. [quote]
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She is a complete idiot. I saw her interviewed yesterday and wanted to reach in and smack that condescending fake smile off her face.... either that or she is retarded and just smiles all the time.

The spin she put on all her answers sounded GREAT, until you actually listened to what she was saying and knew the subject matter. But I find that to be the case with Democrats in government in general.

I also saw some Democrat speaking in Congress yesterday (I believe it was yesterday) and he was railing on their new energy plan and how THEY forced the President to do something and he did so 24 hours before they put their bill on the table. He acted as if that was planned to ruin the Democrat's thunder. He also pointed out that the President had 7 years to do something but didn't.... unlike of course the time Congress had to do something and also did nothing.

I for one am sick of the government in totality. They need to work TOGETHER for our better good, not against each other for what they perceive is THEIR better good.
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She is a complete idiot. I saw her interviewed yesterday and wanted to reach in and smack that condescending fake smile off her face.... either that or she is retarded and just smiles all the time.

The spin she put on all her answers sounded GREAT, until you actually listened to what she was saying and knew the subject matter. But I find that to be the case with Democrats in government in general.

I also saw some Democrat speaking in Congress yesterday (I believe it was yesterday) and he was railing on their new energy plan and how THEY forced the President to do something and he did so 24 hours before they put their bill on the table. He acted as if that was planned to ruin the Democrat's thunder. He also pointed out that the President had 7 years to do something but didn't.... unlike of course the time Congress had to do something and also did nothing.

I for one am sick of the government in totality. They need to work TOGETHER for our better good, not against each other for what they perceive is THEIR better good.


ditto and when the Wolf-Blitzer of CNN showed her that poll that 73% of Americans favor "in house & off shore drilling" AND she balked at the idea, I want to jump thru the TV and choke the living crap outta' that arrogant lesbo-left-winged-liberal ****....
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I'll try again, Pelosi is a freak from the city of freaks.
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Pelosi's position is simple: Anyone who talks about drilling for oil int he US is perpetrating a "hoax", while she has the real answer:

Raise taxes on gas and diesel: Idea of gas-tax holiday dies quick death - Capitol Hill - MSNBC.com
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Why is one person (female dog) allowed to have enough power to block even the opportunity for things to get voted on?
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House Rules. Been this way for about 110 years.

Its why the selection process for Speaker is so important (and its always a private party, run by the senior leaders of the party in power). Pelossi has been busy this past year blocking initiatives from Republican and moderate Democrats - and that's why they have not passed anything of substance.

Even if the Dems hold on to control of the House (not an assured result, it could go the other way, despite any coattails Obama may have), it will be interesting to see if the Blue Dogs and other moderate Dems gain seats. I think they will, perhaps even enough to push Pelossi out. If the "Dixiecrat" movement resurrects itself (there is a groundswell going this way right now here in the South), this could be trouble for BOTH the Republicans and the leftist Congressional Leadership.

Funny thing is, I believe lots of Repub leaders are pulling FOR Pelossi right now...

Politics really DOES create odd bedfellows!
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II just returned from a trip to So Calif and the LA news teams did a series of street interviews with locals and more than half said they opposed drilling offshore. The setting was Huntington Beach with drilling platforms just off shore as the background.

They didnt do any interviews in Long Beach where the drilling sites are camofloged as islands . . . or inland where few would probably care about beachfront property values.

Biased reporting at its finest.

Nothing would satisfy me more than taking Pelosi, to ANWR and pushing her out of the copter face first where the proposed drilling would take place. Maybe a few hours being eaten by mosquitoes would assist her in seeing that the proposed drilling site is not prestine realestate. Next we will work on her trip to a real oil off shore platform off the Texas coast.

BTW can anyone tell me what Peolsi, has constructively accomplished.
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LOL, good one, EZ!

I missed that, but I did see a similar piece featuring the same thing with wind power (somewhere in New England, I think).

Its like asking folks living near an airport if the airport should be moved to be in someone else's back yard!



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II just returned from a trip to So Calif and the LA news teams did a series of street interviews with locals and more than half said they opposed drilling offshore. The setting was Huntington Beach with drilling platforms just off shore as the background.

They didnt do any interviews in Long Beach where the drilling sites are camofloged as islands . . . or inland where few would probably care about beachfront property values.

Biased reporting at its finest.

Nothing would satisfy me more than taking Pelosi, to ANWR and pushing her out of the copter face first where the proposed drilling would take place. Maybe a few hours being eaten by mosquitoes would assist her in seeing that the proposed drilling site is not prestine realestate. Next we will work on her trip to a real oil off shore platform off the Texas coast.

BTW can anyone tell me what Peolsi, has constructively accomplished.
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LOL, good one, EZ!

I missed that, but I did see a similar piece featuring the same thing with wind power (somewhere in New England, I think).

Its like asking folks living near an airport if the airport should be moved to be in someone else's back yard!
This is true. But me personally I think windmills (even modern ones) look pretty darn cool. I don't think they "take away" from the looks of any particular place. Heck, every time I see a windmill (or even a field or ridge line of them) I think they look cool.... oh, but I said that already.

But on that same note, I heard an environmentalist tonight on the news and after all of her "arguing points" for the little bit of ANWR we would be drilling on were shot down (and very easily) she fell back on the "I have stood on those mountains and the view you would get after we start drilling will not be the same".

Yeah, you change from seeing an Arctic bog which has virtually NO distinguishing features, to an Arctic bog that now has a very small part of it with oil drilling facilities on it that do NOTHING to disrupt the "life" the bog "supports".... but does help millions of people.

I guess you either "get it" or you don't. Even those living there "get it".
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These guys read from the same playbook, "now is an excellent chance for alternative energy" I hear the same line over and over. That's nice, but it ain't going to happen overnight you idiots!
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What I find comical at times are the various contrasts put forth by proponents and opponenets in regard to alternative energy. How many times have we heard these words or something similar to it. Heck, I've even spit a couple of these out myself, but it does point to the pro/con debate over alternative energy and why it is slow in the making.

Wind trubines harvest free wind but kills migratory birds. The only thing I havent heard of is the risk of a hot air balloon getting tangled up in one.

Ethanol is a viable alternative to gas but it deprives the food supply chain and drives up prices

Nuclear Energy is widespread in Europe but is an unaceptable security and potential health risk

Opening new areas for domestic oil drilling will reduce dependency but only offsets 2% of imports and can destroy local environment.

Hybrid cars are great at reducing demand for oil, but the batteries are expensive, distance stinks, is dangerous and an environmental hazard.

Well, such is life, there is good and bad in almost everything.




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