Hope fully it won`t be a crock of sh*t. I will be interested in seeing what they have to say , and just how much is, what political advisers have told them to say.
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McCain simply cant communicate. He appeared uneasy, not well prepraed and not vibrant.
BO, did better verbally, connecting with the questions and answers.
The first debate doesnt change my opinion about either candidate.
I disagree, Barack sounded like a rehearsed campaign ad. McCain sounded generally nervous on what would happen in the middle east if Barack were to be elected.
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McCain simply cant communicate. He appeared uneasy, not well prepraed and not vibrant.
BO, did better verbally, connecting with the questions and answers.
The first debate doesnt change my opinion about either candidate.
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I disagree, Barack sounded like a rehearsed campaign ad. McCain sounded generally nervous on what would happen in the middle east if Barack were to be elected.
I cant disagree with you that BO sounded staged, but in my opinion and what the post-debate polls showed, is that BO came out on top on this debate.
The problem with McCain is his drab communicative skills. He lacks synergy, strains to smile, yada yada.
Experience wise, McCain has it over BO. But what I'm afraid will sell at the voting booth is image and sound bites, not who is best qualified to pull this country out of the current mess.
I am just sorry that I missed it. I saw bits and pieces of it this morning on the news and they were saying that Barrack Obama won but like others had said that he had sounded staged. But they had also said that McCain had made some good points as well. I guess it is all in who you ask who won.
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Obama is a better speaker, as everyone knew going in - and since the bulk of the listening public is not aware of the inaccuracies as they occur, they react to the "manner and tone" rather than any flaw in content.
My advice to both candidates would be to stick to the topic. Both kept migrating back to other subjects where they were more comfortable.
Obama needs to avoid whining, mumbling, and interrupting during his opponent's response. It came across as weak and rude.
McCain needs to quit being repetetive. I would suggest he avoid over-using such words as "understand", particularly in referring to his opponent.
Overall I would give Obama the nod for presentation (being a talented speaker counts), and McCain the nod for content (although much of that content was not clearly presented).
Obama can win should he brush up on his history, particularly where McCain is weak, learns some manners, and sticks to issues.
McCain can win if he sticks to the topic, particularly those where Obama's weak, and works on widening his vocabulary.
The current exchange of personal insults and tricky-sticky political techniques benefits McCain, in my opinion.
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Obama is a better speaker, as everyone knew going in - and since the bulk of the listening public is not aware of the inaccuracies as they occur, they react to the "manner and tone" rather than any flaw in content.
My advice to both candidates would be to stick to the topic. Both kept migrating back to other subjects where they were more comfortable.
Obama needs to avoid whining, mumbling, and interrupting during his opponent's response. It came across as weak and rude.
McCain needs to quit being repetetive. I would suggest he avoid over-using such words as "understand", particularly in referring to his opponent.
Overall I would give Obama the nod for presentation (being a talented speaker counts), and McCain the nod for content (although much of that content was not clearly presented).
Obama can win should he brush up on his history, particularly where McCain is weak, learns some manners, and sticks to issues.
McCain can win if he sticks to the topic, particularly those where Obama's weak, and works on widening his vocabulary.
The current exchange of personal insults and tricky-sticky political techniques benefits McCain, in my opinion.
George Steponopolis (spelling?) caught that too. I just think McCain is truly concerned about the middle east if Obama is elected.
I really hated when Obama kept arguing about what Kissinger had said. I also think the moderator kept the domestic question up too long. I didn't get it, They said they were working on the answer and he kept hammering them for answers. I don't think any one person has an answer to this mess. The good thing is that for the most part most say this did not sway them either way. Hopefully McCain will learn from this first one.
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Don't be surprised if you see the things I listed addressed in the next Debate.
I also wonder if they will be picking a right wing moderator next time, since they picked a lefty this time. I know, such things are rare among the journalistic ranks (vs the editorial and entertainer ranks like talk radio).
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What I saw was a "performance" and points were given for artistic presentation and "likeability".
Did anyone actually expect anything more than that? And did anyone actually expect to hear something NEW or any real substance laid out?
For the American People to accept this type of show as anything other than "face time" is ridiculous. And for anyone to assign a "winner" or "loser" with this type of dueling theatrics is akin to calling in on American Idol. Further more, the fact that people are even "debating" who won a clearly staged event with little to no real substance (as well as one that IMHO did not sway any potential voters... unless they have been living under a rock for the past year and didn't know a single thing about either candidate) brings me to believe that our Nation deserves what we get out of this upcoming election... and heaven help us.
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LOL, Sam, don't kid yourself - the huge majority of those who watched the debates were receiving a TON of new (to them) information - garbled as it was. These are the "unlettered masses", the voters who have been controlling Presidential elections for over 60 years.
I happened to be in a fishing lodge in Tennessee when it came on the tube, and the room grew silent (about 15 men and a few women were present) and watched the proceedings with rapt attention all the way through. From the comments I heard it was clear that most had no clue as to the real issues (or the underlying facts of same).
If there is a good analogy for this farce, it is that these people are like dogs, reacting to the pleasant tone of Obama rather than the content (if any). They glean a few wildly inaccurate sound bites, and hang their entire decision on an emotional reaction rather than a rational deduction.
These debates (or as you so accurately say, theatrical, staged events) are truly a shame, but they have been important factors in these elections since JFK vs Nixon.
The last true debate I am aware of involved Woodrow Wilson.
I too watched the debate and frankly, walked away with more questions than answers (par for the course).
I thought Obama sounded rehearsed (although Leher said these questions were picked by him and shared with no one? ).
I thought McCain kicked butt on the economy questions and surprisingly, Obama sounded like he knew what he was talking about when it came to Foreign policy, which is supposed to be McCain's strong suit. The one thing that stuck out for me was Obama arguing with McCain about the war in Iraq? Arguing with a decorated military man about how the war should've been played? Arguing with McCain about foreign dignitaries when clearly McCain has real world experience having been to these places and Obama reading about them in books at Harvard or whatever Ivy league school he attended.
I also thought it was embarrassing for Obama when trying to tell McCain that he too, had a bracelet from a parent of a fallen solider. Hell, he couldn't even remember the family's name until he got done fumbling around looking for the bracelet?
I am surprised to see that so many of you say that Obama won the judges decision? (). Fox viewers declared McCain the winner 82% to 18%. Although that was just 1 agency reporting their viewers thoughts, I have to agree. I think experience wins out over book smarts 110% of the time.
Go with PI heads and quit watching The Fast and the Furious. (thanks 2 IhaveadopeGT)
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). Fox viewers declared McCain the winner 82% to 18%. Although that was just 1 agency reporting their viewers thoughts, I have to agree. I think experience wins out over book smarts 110% of the time.
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