Looks like they've been planning this one for a while. It's even written by a Republican from ILLINOIS of all places. Coincidence perhaps? Doubtful.
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Sometimes I think that government fits that old-fashioned definition of a baby: An alimentary canal with an appetite at one end and no sense of responsibility at the other.
- Ronald Reagan
District of Columbia v. Heller Says you can not outlaw whole classes of weapons.
Liberals shot themselves in the foot when
In United States v. Miller they concluded The Second Amendment protects only the ownership of military-type weapons appropriate for use in an organized militia.
Liberals then shot them in the foot again when in Prinz v. United States they again quoted the United States v. Miller
(1997) (opinion by Scalia) (Thomas, concurring)
Our most recent treatment of the Second Amendment occurred in United States v. Miller, 307 U.S. 174 (1939), in which we reversed the District Court's invalidation of the National Firearms Act, enacted in 1934. In Miller, we determined that the Second Amendment did not guarantee a citizen's right to possess a sawed off shotgun because that weapon had not been shown to be "ordinary military equipment" that could "contribute to the common defense." Id., at 178. The Court did not, however, attempt to define, or otherwise construe, the substantive right protected by the Second Amendment.
Assault weapons are, as found by the Supreme Court, are the truest from of what is protected by the Second Amendment.
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So , let me get this straight…..your Honda has 1.6 liters, whereas my bottle of Mountain Dew has 2?
"When a strong man, fully armed, guards his own house, his possessions are safe. -Jesus
-1988 Ford Mustang GT Convertible, 331 Trick Flow Stroker with a Tremec 3550....oh yea and a 1.6 liter V-TECH motor to work the convertible top.
and it's cosponsored by 4 other republicans!! : madas:
WTF are they thinking?!?!?!?!?
Further proof that the idea that either major party gives a crap about our rights - or that the Republicans are any better than the Dems when it comes to the 2A - is bullcrap. I have the beginnings of a theory on this, though...
By the time this bill was introduced, the Repugnantcons would have known there was a good chance that a Dumbocrap would end up in the White House this go 'round. If this bill passes into law, it will be under Obama's administration and it will be Obama who signs off on it. Four years from now, the Repugnantcons can blame Obama for the ban and say, "See, we told you he would take your guns," and get a large percentage of the stupid a$$ American voting public to buy that it was Obama and the Dumbocraps who put the ban back in place as they will be too stupid, lazy and gullible to ever notice that it was a bunch of Repugnantcon a-holes who got the ball rolling, in the first place.
When it comes right down to it, the vast majority of perceived differences between the modern Democratic and Republican parties are about as genuine as the differences between the 'good guys' and the 'heels' of the WWF. It's all a big act to keep the voting public buying the T-shirts and rooting for one side or the other.
I'm really glad you chimed in on this one County. I had a feeling you'd have good dirt on the topic.
This all points towards the more common semi-auto rifles, handguns and shotguns that the majority of us own as NOT being protected though. How can we counter that point then?
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Sometimes I think that government fits that old-fashioned definition of a baby: An alimentary canal with an appetite at one end and no sense of responsibility at the other.
- Ronald Reagan
Columbia v. Heller did confirm that handguns were protected as they were the often thought to be best choice for home defense (the case didn’t go into it but many here would argue the shotgun is the best)
Which they said was one of the purposes of the Second amendment.
United States v. Miller is actually a very week case. They had the Government there to prosecute but no pro gun people or organizations submitted briefs or arguments. The defendant did not appear and had no counsel so the judges made their decision based on what they government prosecutors told them. Anti gunners held this case up for years as their crown jewel. Now that the Heller case says it’s an individual right it will be a thorn in their side and will ignore it or try to discredit it.
But it is all a moot point, when has the Constitution or the Supreme Court ever stopped the Democrats from stripping our rights away?
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So , let me get this straight…..your Honda has 1.6 liters, whereas my bottle of Mountain Dew has 2?
"When a strong man, fully armed, guards his own house, his possessions are safe. -Jesus
-1988 Ford Mustang GT Convertible, 331 Trick Flow Stroker with a Tremec 3550....oh yea and a 1.6 liter V-TECH motor to work the convertible top.
when has the Constitution or the Supreme Court ever stopped the Democrats from stripping our rights away?
I'm gonna have to think about that one for about 220 years or so.
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Sometimes I think that government fits that old-fashioned definition of a baby: An alimentary canal with an appetite at one end and no sense of responsibility at the other.
- Ronald Reagan
...when has the Constitution or the Supreme Court ever stopped the Democrats from stripping our rights away?
Once again, all of the sponsors of this bill are Republicans. What we should really be asking is, "When has the Constitution or the Supreme Court ever stopped politicians from stripping our rights away?" Holding on to the fallacy that either the Dems or Reps are any better or any more on our side than the other will only give our 'preferred' side the chance to ambush us.
1. The bill was introduced, but went nowhere (the Committee never even considered it - meaning the Democrat in charge just killed it). Such a bill, if treated seriously, would be politically useful for Republicans trying to win re-election in a bad year in a moderate district.
2. Ros-Lehtinen, R-Florida, won her race for re-election. She is a known RINO (Republican in name only) when it comes to guns. Anti-gun.
3. M. Ferguson, R-New Jersey, appears to have retired (did not seek re-election). Another RINO.
4. C.Shays, R-Ct., lost his bid for re-election. This was a transparent attempt to cater to his very liberal district.
5. M. Castle, R-Del., won his bid for re-election. Another RINO.
2 of the 4 sponsors aren't going to be in the Congress next year, and the other two are essentially Democrats.
This bill is going nowhere...
Which can only mean that some Democrat plans to pass a similar bill (probably more sweeping) come January.
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"You can never be free until you let yourself go."
District of Columbia v. Heller Says you can not outlaw whole classes of weapons.
Liberals shot themselves in the foot when
In United States v. Miller they concluded The Second Amendment protects only the ownership of military-type weapons appropriate for use in an organized militia.
Liberals then shot them in the foot again when in Prinz v. United States they again quoted the United States v. Miller
(1997) (opinion by Scalia) (Thomas, concurring)
Our most recent treatment of the Second Amendment occurred in United States v. Miller, 307 U.S. 174 (1939), in which we reversed the District Court's invalidation of the National Firearms Act, enacted in 1934. In Miller, we determined that the Second Amendment did not guarantee a citizen's right to possess a sawed off shotgun because that weapon had not been shown to be "ordinary military equipment" that could "contribute to the common defense." Id., at 178. The Court did not, however, attempt to define, or otherwise construe, the substantive right protected by the Second Amendment.
Assault weapons are, as found by the Supreme Court, are the truest from of what is protected by the Second Amendment.
Remember good 'ol Billy Clinton put a 10 year ban on assault weapons, 30 round assault mags, and 15 round pistol mags.
It was passed in 1995 and exp on 2005. Obama wants to put a permanent ban on them!!!!
Now if you think about it assault weapons only contribute 4% of gun crimes!!! Thats less deaths in a year then abortions. Which Obama supports both!!! If your thinking about getting one you better do it now which I am. A standard russian "SKS" cost around $500.
Back during the ban they costed $1,200 +.
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When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.
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Look at the language of the bill, anyone who say they are not out to take away the guns just need to look here.
RESTRICTION ON MANUFACTURE, TRANSFER, AND POSSESSION OF CERTAIN SEMIAUTOMATIC ASSAULT WEAPONS
Look transfer and possession…….looking just like California all over again.
Other odd things
a semiautomatic pistol that has an ability to accept a detachable magazine and has at least 2
an ammunition magazine that attaches to the pistol outside of the pistol grip; darn no more 10 round clips for a 1911
a manufactured weight of 50 ounces or more when the pistol is unloaded A pistol can be an assault weapon if it weights 3.125 or more?
a semiautomatic version of an automatic firearm; no more Glock 17s, or will they say all Glocks since they are the same design?
The term ‘large capacity ammunition feeding device’--
‘(A) means a magazine, belt, drum, feed strip, or similar device manufactured after the date of enactment of the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994 that has a capacity of, or that can be readily restored or converted to accept, more than 10 rounds of ammunition;
So the law backdates to 1994 and violates Article 1 Section 9 of the Constitution “No Bill of Attainder or ex post facto Law shall be passed.”
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So , let me get this straight…..your Honda has 1.6 liters, whereas my bottle of Mountain Dew has 2?
"When a strong man, fully armed, guards his own house, his possessions are safe. -Jesus
-1988 Ford Mustang GT Convertible, 331 Trick Flow Stroker with a Tremec 3550....oh yea and a 1.6 liter V-TECH motor to work the convertible top.
Look at the language of the bill, anyone who say they are not out to take away the guns just need to look here.
RESTRICTION ON MANUFACTURE, TRANSFER, AND POSSESSION OF CERTAIN SEMIAUTOMATIC ASSAULT WEAPONS
Look transfer and possession…….looking just like California all over again.
Other odd things
a semiautomatic pistol that has an ability to accept a detachable magazine and has at least 2
an ammunition magazine that attaches to the pistol outside of the pistol grip; darn no more 10 round clips for a 1911
a manufactured weight of 50 ounces or more when the pistol is unloaded A pistol can be an assault weapon if it weights 3.125 or more?
a semiautomatic version of an automatic firearm; no more Glock 17s, or will they say all Glocks since they are the same design?
The term ‘large capacity ammunition feeding device’--
‘(A) means a magazine, belt, drum, feed strip, or similar device manufactured after the date of enactment of the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994 that has a capacity of, or that can be readily restored or converted to accept, more than 10 rounds of ammunition;
So the law backdates to 1994 and violates Article 1 Section 9 of the Constitution “No Bill of Attainder or ex post facto Law shall be passed.”
I have a good feeling that it's going to pass again! For at lest another 10 years! My wife dosent care because she hates any fire arm. It dosent mean I dont have them in the house she just wont ever fire one. Which is to bad because I think every American should know how to use one (at the right age). I say this because I think it would bring down the accidental deaths. If taught right you should know how to store a weapon so that no children will be able to (play) with one. This is the parents fault of corse (not the gun makers) which so may people like to blame!!
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When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.
--Thomas Jefferson
maybe we will get lucky and bush can somehow stop it before he leaves. you know if it hits obamas desk, we are sunk. im off to the gun store again.....
2nd Amendment under attack already... 
If your thinking about getting one you better do it now which I am. A standard russian "SKS" cost around $500.
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