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Old 12-14-2008   #1 (permalink)
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Default I have always thought that people were being planted in our country


I have always thought that people were being planted in our country
years ago to destroy us from within. They know that they can't invade us head on.
Most of us in the USA are very naive and trust people way to much.

This does not have anything to do with who we voted for or what we believe
about our politics. This is about the war on terror and it is a warning for
all of us.




Homeland Security.

Juval Aviv was the Israeli Agent upon whom the movie 'Munich' was based.
He was Golda Meir's bodyguard--she appointed him to track down and bring to
justice the Palestinian terrorists who took the Israeli athletes hostage and
killed them during the Munich Olympic Games (Aviv's bio is noted at end).

He predicted the London subway bombing on the Bill O'Reilly show on Fox News
stating publicly that it would happen within a week. At the time, O'Reilly
laughed and mocked him saying that in a week he wanted him back on the show.
But, unfortunately, within a week the terrorist attack had occurred.

Now for his future predictions.... He predicts the next terrorist attack on
the US will occur within the next few months. Forget hijacking airplanes,
because he says terrorists will NEVER try and hijack a plane again as they
know the people onboard will never go down quietly again. Aviv believes our
airport security is a joke--that we have been reactionary rather than
proactive in developing strategies that are truly effective. For example:

1) Our airport technology is outdated. We look for metal, and the new
explosives are made of plastic.

2) He talked about how some idiot tried to light his shoe on fire. Because
of that, now everyone has to take off their shoes. A group of idiots tried
to bring aboard liquid explosives. Now we can't bring liquids on board. He
says he's waiting for some suicidal maniac to pour liquid explosive on his
underwear; at which point, security will have us all traveling naked!

Every strategy we have is 'reactionary.'

3) We only focus on security when people are heading to the gates. Aviv
says that if a terrorist attack targets airports in the future, they will target
busy times on the front end of the airport when/where people are checking
in. It would be easy for someone to take two suitcases of explosives, walk up
to a busy check-in line, ask a person next to them to watch their bags for
a minute while they go to the restroom, and then detonate the bags BEFORE
security even gets involved. In Israel, security checks bags BEFORE people can
even ENTER the airport.

Aviv says the next terrorist attack here in America is imminent and will
involve suicide bombers and non-suicide bombers in places where large groups of
people congregate i.e., Disneyland, Las Vegas casinos, big cities (New York,
San Francisco, Chicago, etc.) and that it will also include shopping malls,
subways in rush hour, train stations, etc., as well as rural America this
time (Wyoming, Montana, etc.).

The attack will be characterized by simultaneous detonations around the
country (terrorists like big impact), involving at least 5-8 cities, including
rural areas. Aviv says terrorists won't need to use suicide bombers in many
of the larger cities, because at places like the MGM Grand in Las Vegas, they
can simply valet park a car loaded with explosives and walk away.

Aviv says all of the above is well known in intelligence circles, but that
our US Government does not want to 'alarm American citizens' with the facts.

The world is quickly going to become 'a different place,' and issues like
'global warming' and 'political correctness' will become totally irrelevant.

On an encouraging note, he says the terrorists who want to destroy America
will not use sophisticated weapons. They like to use suicide as a front-line
approach. It's cheap, it's easy, it's effective; and they
have an infinite abundance of young militants more than willing to 'meet
their destiny.'

He also says the next level of terrorists, over which America should be most
concerned, will not be coming from abroad. But will be, instead,
'homegrown' - having attended and been educated in our own schools and universities
right here in the United States. He says to look for 'students' who frequently
travel back and forth to the Middle East. These young terrorists will be
most dangerous because they will know our language and will fully understand
the habits of Americans; but that we Americans won't know or understand a
thing about them.

Aviv says that, as a people, Americans are unaware and uneducated about the
terroristic threats we will, inevitably, face. America still has only a
handful of Arabic and Farsi speaking people in our intelligence networks, and
Aviv says it is critical that we change that fact - SOON.

So, what can America do to protect itself? From an intelligence
perspective, Aviv says the US needs to stop relying on satellites and technology for
intelligence. We need to, instead, follow Israel's,
Ireland's and England's hands-on examples of human intelligence, both from
an infiltration perspective as well as to trust 'aware' citizens to help.

We need to engage and educate ourselves as citizens however; our US
Government continues to treat us, its citizens, 'like babies.' Our government
thinks we 'can't handle the truth' and are concerned that we'll panic if we understand
the realities of terrorism. Aviv says this is a deadly mistake.

Aviv recently created/executed a security test for our Congress, by placing
an empty briefcase in five well-traveled spots in five major cities. The
results? Not one person called 911 or sought a policeman to check it out. In
fact, in Chicago, someone tried to steal the briefcase!

In comparison, Aviv says that citizens of Israel are so well 'trained that
an unattended bag or package would be reported in seconds by citizen(s) who
know to publicly shout, 'Unattended Bag.' The area would be quickly & calmly
cleared by the citizens themselves. But, unfortunately, America hasn't been
yet 'hurt enough' by terrorism for their government to fully understand the
need to educate its citizens or for the government to understand that it's
their citizens who are, inevitably, the best first-line of defense against
terrorism.

Aviv also was concerned about the high number of children here in America
who were in preschool and kindergarten after 9/11, who were 'lost' without
parents being able to pick them up, and about schools that had no plan in place
to best care for the students until parents could get there. In New York
City, this was days, in some cases!

He stresses the importance of having a plan, that's agreed upon within your
family, to respond to in the event of a terroristic emergency. He urges
parents to contact their children's schools and demand that the schools, too,
develop plans of actions, as they do in Israel.

Does your family know what to do if you can't contact one another by phone?
Where would you gather in an emergency? He says we should all have a plan
that is easy enough for even our youngest children to remember and follow.

Aviv says that the US Government has in force a plan that, in the event of
another terrorist attack, will immediately cut-off EVERYONE's ability to use
cell phones, blackberries, etc., as this is the preferred communication
source used by terrorists and is often the way that their bombs are detonated.
How will you communicate with your loved ones in the event you cannot speak?
You need to have a plan.

Aviv's Bio is as follows:

He holds an M.A. in Business from Tel Aviv University and is President and
CEO of Interfor, Inc., an international corporate intelligence and
investigations firm. Interfor, Inc. is now based in New York, with offices around the
world. It was founded in 1979 and provides foreign and domestic intelligence
services to legal, corporate and financial communities around the world.
Interfor, Inc. also conducts investigations into terrorism and Mr. Aviv now
serves as a special consultant to the US Congress, and other policy makers, here
within the US on issues of terrorism, fraud and money laundering. Interfor's
services encompass white-collar crime investigations, asset search and
recovery, corporate due diligence, litigation support, fraud investigations,
internal compliance investigations and security and vulnerability assessments.
Since its inception, Interfor's asset investigation services have recovered
over $2 billion worldwide for its clients.

A leading authority on terrorist networks, Mr. Aviv served as lead
investigator for Pan Am Airways into the Pan Am 103-Lockerbie terrorist bombing. He
was featured in the recent film, Munich, as the leader of the Israeli team
that tracked down the terrorists who kidnapped the Israeli Olympic team.
Before founding Interfor, Mr. Aviv served as an officer in the Israel Defense
Force (Major, retired) leading an elite Commando/Intelligence Unit, and was
later selected by the Israeli Secret Service (Mossad) to participate in a number
of intelligence special operations, serving in many countries in the late
1960s and 1970s.

While working as a consultant with El Al, Mr. Aviv surveyed the existing
security measures in place and updated El Al's security program, making El Al
the safest airline in business today. Most recently, Mr. Aviv wrote a book
entitled, 'Staying Safe: The Complete Guide to Protecting Yourself, Your Family,
and Your Business' (2004, Harper Resource).

He has been a featured guest on ABC Nightline, FOX News, CNN, BBC Newsnight,
ZDF (German National Television) and RAI (Italian National Television)--and
has been featured in numerous articles in major magazines and newspapers
worldwide.
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They are very patient at what they do and will wait until everything is as perect as it can be when they launch an attack.

There are too many people who forgot about 9/11 and have a conyption fit anytime the government puts out any type of a warning.
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Sounds to me like he just made a pretty good point in favor of a well armed citizenry.
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Sounds to me like he just made a pretty good point in favor of a well armed citizenry.
And why I have always distrusted cell phones, not to mention the civilian use of GPS.
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They are very patient at what they do and will wait until everything is as perect as it can be when they launch an attack.

There are too many people who forgot about 9/11 and have a conyption fit anytime the government puts out any type of a warning.
Either forgot or believe it was some conspiracy for the government to gain control.
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America by nature is a complacent society that doesnt take security as seriously as it should.

Anytime the Govt steps up security due to an alert there is a major uproar over loss of liberties. Anytime an inccident happens there is an uproar that the Govt did nothing.

If you travel overseas, lets say to the UK, you know security is serious stuff by the precence of machine gun totting security and 4 security checkpoints inside the airport ranging from the pre-screen before the ticket counter to the final security check before you enter the boarding area.

This only means you are more secure inside the secure zones, but I find that people overseas are more aware of their surroundings.

One comment about Israel, where Aviv comes from and the comment bluestreak made about an armed citizenary. Israel has a conscript requirement of 2 years for everyone and they always carry their weapons where possible. In the US you cant find a democrat that can fight worth a crap and the people most likely to be armed in the USA are street thugs who hone their shooting skills on the general population.
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And least I forget, now the Press Corp has to remove their shoes for Whitehouse Press Conferences following the shoe attack on Bush.

That Iraqi gum shoe reporter had a pretty good arm and Bush had some pretty smooth moves.
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America by nature is a complacent society that doesnt take security as seriously as it should.

Anytime the Govt steps up security due to an alert there is a major uproar over loss of liberties. Anytime an inccident happens there is an uproar that the Govt did nothing.

If you travel overseas, lets say to the UK, you know security is serious stuff by the precence of machine gun totting security and 4 security checkpoints inside the airport ranging from the pre-screen before the ticket counter to the final security check before you enter the boarding area.

This only means you are more secure inside the secure zones, but I find that people overseas are more aware of their surroundings.

One comment about Israel, where Aviv comes from and the comment bluestreak made about an armed citizenary. Israel has a conscript requirement of 2 years for everyone and they always carry their weapons where possible. In the US you cant find a democrat that can fight worth a crap and the people most likely to be armed in the USA are street thugs who hone their shooting skills on the general population.
Yes complacent is the word , I agree. The American People seem to enjoy the big thumb being put on there heads, or a lot are just ignorant.
This is why I train daily to fight in Mixed martial arts and shoot at least once a week if not more. The idea of a safe america with so many liberals is insane.Yea the israiles have a minimum of 2 years military service that has to be given.I carry mine every where except the liquor store. Yea the one place you would more than likely need it. Go figure.
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