War is hell. And death is terrible. But you can post all the "awful" videos and pictures that you want, it will not change the fact that if rockets were not being continually fired into Israel NONE of this would have happened. I see NO victims OF Israel in this situation. I see unfortunate casualties, but no "victims".
You keep poking the bear and he rips your head off, too bad. I don't blame the bear. I blame the stupidity of continuing an action that has a perfectly predictably bad outcome. And in this case I have to remark at how long the bear took what it did before it struck back.
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Let’s see how this bear can survive surrounded by 300 million bears.
They have to stop my friend both of them. What Hamas want is too open the border and they stop.
By the way I am a peaceful man, I believe in peace and humans right.
Please list all the countries in the world that have "open borders". Now list all the places that would not impose security checks on places they know have brought in weapons to use in terrorist attacks on them.
Sorry. Like I stated before, this is not about any "issues" the Palestinians have with Israel, it is about their blind hate of Jews. Nothing the Jews can do will stop the attacks. And no other nation would allow themselves to be attacked like this... for ANY reason.
If the borders were "opened" the weapons would flow, the attacks would increase, and it would then be ANOTHER excuse given why the Israelis are being attacked.
And your post here shows your intent, and that of those attacking Israel. Rise up is you want, then the "other" bear may be brought into it..... This is not about "issues' but about a deep routed hatred and nothing more.
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- Sam
The shackles of opression and dependence are most easily slipped on with a smile and kind words of hope.
Please list all the countries in the world that have "open borders". Now list all the places that would not impose security checks on places they know have brought in weapons to use in terrorist attacks on them.
Sorry. Like I stated before, this is not about any "issues" the Palestinians have with Israel, it is about their blind hate of Jews. Nothing the Jews can do will stop the attacks. And no other nation would allow themselves to be attacked like this... for ANY reason.
If the borders were "opened" the weapons would flow, the attacks would increase, and it would then be ANOTHER excuse given why the Israelis are being attacked.
And your post here shows your intent, and that of those attacking Israel. Rise up is you want, then the "other" bear may be brought into it..... This is not about "issues' but about a deep routed hatred and nothing more.
Plus Infinity. This is just more manipulation - and just to update the sender, in a location where no sympathy will be found.
Been there, done that, bought the t-shirt. Ancient nam-era twisting of the media.
Some things to consider, having just listened on NPR (National Palestinian Radio) to an obsequious "journalist" interviewing a Norwegian doctor in Gaza...
1. The 600 "civilians" killed INCLUDES every Hamas terrorist in the count. These guys don't wear uniforms.
2. Pointing out that "this is not a war between two armies" means nothing. See item #1 above.
3. COULD Hamas have an identifying uniform? Sure. They sport these colorful outfits in all their propaganda films... They just don't actually WEAR them while killing jews from inside a house full of women and kids.
4. How much of this is caused by "friendly fire"? We have amateur morons running around in a panic handling improvised munitions. How often do they blow themselves up? How often do they lose control of their rockets, mines and bombs and kill their own people? Video of them shooting these things straight up would lead one to believe that the old saying holds true yet again:
"Idiots and explosives usually have the same bad end - and gravity ALWAYS wins".
4. Nobody is fooled by this nonsense anymore. The small percentage of Americans who are very far Left will lap this swill up, but the rest of us just find it annoying. Those of us of a Libertarian or far right opinion find the attempt to meddle with our minds merely amusing.
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Shartley... How can a human not watch the actions of others? Like you said, for some reason, you can hurl your insults, but when the bear takes a bite, why is your arm down the animal's throat is how do you play with wild animals is who asked you to enter that territory is are you a bare wit ness?
I did not mean to insult the animals in the world is that you can zoo keep those in one pen and feed them is no one eats each other is food for everyone. So, how is it a country needs guns and not food is smuggle in what is your choice and you made that choice did you not? I mean, send a bunch of arms down the throat of a bare azz sh it inn the woods? Does it ear the tree fall? It seer does slice a loaf of a log at that pile of fee seas is you are paying for your life is be obsessed 5 times a day is pray for terrorism? Funny stuff is the human mind. Blame me for your actions? Not in my lifetime is you better point the finger up your rear end dare is the one pointing the finger.
Did Hamassholes choose to smuggle in food or how can so many babies be popping up like well, way too many humans are they growing bye leaps and bounds is own your boundary is watch them out in the streets of your own country and you are along side wit dem is side with terror? Are they ball busting you as you begin to read why are the muslims next choice is they are growing so many children is they do not look like they are starving... do you? Like grow many is take over the world say?
OK, so say everyone is fed and now who is crying about starving one out of a meal is the poor muslims sure look healthy enough to throw rocks and act like savages is a child reads a book to kill infidels is if Israel was not a country is, or say Allah would still be killing infidels is wipe out all the jews. Do you think islam would be at peace with the world is ask yourself.
You ever see those kids in Africa that are the; and I will not pronounce the spelling correctly is the, 'Moo Who Chew (Ewwww) Dean" is that the muslims remove the testicles of children; send them off to war; is ask yourself if a jew ever removed the balls of an African child. Did Israel say, lets go sweep the oil fields is what you witnessed in your lifetime is that this has been going on for centuries in Africa (is chase the infidel africans too) and why are you not out in the streets for the Africans is really displaced in a desert is now islam nice to mankind is the jews did that is that to an black child is that correct?
I am just asking if there is a genital removal of a boy's testicles is sure, the whatever that is a pinch of skin is that is a jewish boy is not a, "You Nick!" LIke, You Nicked my balls off is left the dick. OH, NO, No, no....
Dick'd OFF way to much genitalia is you ever see a jew save a ball busting laughing at chews is when the jew is vanished from the face of the earth is YOU are next is someone is going to lie is point a finger at you is prove what I said is only repeating history-past-is the future; and the present is you are in the presence of islam and you keep perpetchew ate ting is DING-DING USE IS NEXT you dumb infidel!
LOL is last Jew IS Speaking Two Choose! Whom Be Next?
ANSWER! LOLLOLOLOLOLOLow Down Truth Say Ear!
Islam has plenty of child to sacrifice. Islam dug a hole, shot all those ball-less that is child is that did not fight for allah is bury them are the , Dick Only's. And that is your future siding with islam; is to remove the balls of a boy is you do not rape the virgin is that is for sale is your blonde daughter is next. Now is the time to prove me wrong is a historical fact is you are making your own moves and I love the propaganda of islam is working on your brain child is perpetuate the hate = LOL.
You, not me is point out history repeats itself is you are a broken record some human is next = So says Isam! HA HA HA HA!!!!!
Day lastis Jew Speak Is TWo Choose Whom be next is in your lifetime is keep siding with the enemy that calls you an infidel is that is so funny is the silly propaganda is sea right through it is who gives a SH IT..... is TAG USE IT!
Well I think you guys all against me know; lets see what the result of this war would be. Am sure more violence.
Please take a lesson of Iraq war; this is a result of your ignorant.and i can see this now
No doubt a war caused by Israel defending itself from terrorists would lead to more violence. I don't think anyone would, or is, arguing against that. The thing being discussed, and is in dissagreement, is who is at fault and who is the "victim".
As for taking a lesson from the Iraq war, what does that mean? It seems to me that folks disliked the US before that happened, and they will dislike the US long after it is over. Is Hussein still in power? No? Interesting.
Now it can be debated if the war will indeed bring lasting stability to the region, or if the Iraqi people WANT or are READY for a Democratic government, but that is a totally different debate. Heck, I have long said that for a Democracy to work it must be EARNED and WANTED by the people, not given to them. I don't think the Iraqi people can handle a Democracy, nor will it be the best thing for them for many reasons.
See? I am not in agreement with every action my government makes. And to try to insinuate that all Americans are "ignorant" because of one thing or another is the height of bigotry. And so is calling someone who does not agree with you ignorant by default. There are many times when two people given the same information can come to completely different opinions on the matter. And there are times when two people can be equally educated but also have totally different views on things.
But with that said, anyone who has studied the Middle East longer than 30 minutes will see that there are deep cultural and social issues that have done little more than foster hate, distrust, and fighting between the peoples of the region. And I don't need to back that up with long lists of Historical facts, I just invite folks to do a little research for themselves.
Now is this the ONLY place in the world that has this problem? Nope. But it is the place we are discussing in this thread.
But hey, the key to winning a debate or even simple discussion is to claim being the victim of ignorant people.
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The shackles of opression and dependence are most easily slipped on with a smile and kind words of hope.
How anyone backing the Palestine side of this argument can call someone else ignorant is beyond me. You've been absolutely brainwashed and your ability to think for yourself and objectively is non-existant.
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ABUDD 1999 is a plant.
This same propaganda is being placed on other sites.
They are using the internet to wage a propaganda war. And sites like AFM are used.
At least he is posting what country he is posting from, maybe? (Saudi Arabia)
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