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Any Suggestions? The Jewish Roots of the Iranian President: Ahmadinejad the Jew

A photograph of the Iranian president holding up his identity card during elections in March 2008 clearly shows his family has Jewish roots.

A close-up of the document reveals he was previously known as Sabourjian – a Jewish name meaning cloth weaver.

The short note scrawled on the card suggests his family changed its name to Ahmadinejad when they converted to embrace Islam after his birth.

The Sabourjians traditionally hail from Aradan, Mr Ahmadinejad’s birthplace, and the name derives from “weaver of the Sabour”, the name for the Jewish Tallit shawl in Persia. The name is even on the list of reserved names for Iranian Jews compiled by Iran’s Ministry of the Interior.

Experts last night suggested Mr Ahmadinejad’s track record for hate-filled attacks on Jews could be an overcompensation to hide his past. …

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LOL
Nice find. It is sad and funny at the same time.
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That just makes me wonder if his disgust of Jews has something to do with self-loathing.
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That just makes me wonder if his disgust of Jews has something to do with self-loathing.
Could be, though it would be something happening at a subconscious level.

Doesn't change what is happening in Iran right now, though it is one of those ironic twists of history.
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It has happened before, seeing as Hitler actually had Jewish heritage, as well.
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It has happened before, seeing as Hitler actually had Jewish heritage, as well.
Right, Hitler grown in a rich Jewish family (Rothschild family) and some stories tells that his mother got pregnant from one of the Rothschild family member, and the way Hitler got his power and wealth supporting by Rothschild family and worse than this many of the commanders in his army were Jew.

Well, GOD knows what is the truth, since history written by winners
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Most of the legends about Hitler's jewish links are just that, legends...

But it IS fact that Hitler served under a Jewish lieutenant in WWI, and was awarded the Iron Cross by the same Jewish lieutenant.

History tells us that though the Jews were a small minority in Germany (though not as small as now, of course), they were very patriotic and when the country went to war in WWI, they fought and died in numbers out of proportion to their part of the population. They were also often cited for their heroism.
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Most of the legends about Hitler's jewish links are just that, legends...

But it IS fact that Hitler served under a Jewish lieutenant in WWI, and was awarded the Iron Cross by the same Jewish lieutenant.

History tells us that though the Jews were a small minority in Germany (though not as small as now, of course), they were very patriotic and when the country went to war in WWI, they fought and died in numbers out of proportion to their part of the population. They were also often cited for their heroism.


This is new information for me, but like i said before GOD knows what the truth is...

but regarding small minority in Germany, how come small and they claim millions died in Holocaust???
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This is new information for me, but like i said before GOD knows what the truth is...

but regarding small minority in Germany, how come small and they claim millions died in Holocaust???
I don't know what the Jewish population of Germany was before WWII, but it could easily have been a few million and the Jews would still have been a small minority group. You also need to add the Jewish populations of Poland, Hungary, Lithuania, Latvia, Denmark, France and number of other European countries that the Nazis overran.
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The battlecry of the unsupportable untruth!
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I don't know what the Jewish population of Germany was before WWII, but it could easily have been a few million and the Jews would still have been a small minority group. You also need to add the Jewish populations of Poland, Hungary, Lithuania, Latvia, Denmark, France and number of other European countries that the Nazis overran.
Correct. They collected millions of jews from all over Europe, and lest we forget, this included Italy, the Netherlands, Belgium, Hungary, Bulgaria, conquered portions of Russia, etc, etc, etc.

I will ask (please) that we not revisit AGAIN the "Holocaust was a fake" conspiracy debate, please. Its really gotten boring, like watching re-runs of I Love Lucy.
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The battlecry of the unsupportable untruth!
Not to say it is or isn’t the truth in this case but history is written by the winners.

Look at the Civil War, where the brave North fought to wrights the wrongs of the founders. Or so they tell you but hey it sounds a lot better than the urban areas forcing rural areas into servitude.

You can even see it in our elections. Everything was Clinton’s fault, then it was Bush’s and next it will be Obama’s fault when in reality it is the two party system with the SAME goals that is causing this problem.

And you know right now if they discovered the smoking gun of weapons of mass destruction it would be buried for the next 100 years.
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I believe what determines being Jewish, is not the name, but the ability to trace it through the mother's bloodline or heritage.

How ironic if he really has Jewish heritage . . .
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