If this wasn't so scary it would be funny. I guess they are saying that if you don't "get a tingle up your leg" they won't come on ANY news show or pundits show, how scary is this? Is state run media far behind?
If this wasn't so scary it would be funny. I guess they are saying that if you don't "get a tingle up your leg" they won't come on ANY news show or pundits show, how scary is this? Is state run media far behind?
LOL, that's exactly the point, doc. Obamacapone is so accustomed to deferential treatment and obedience from the slavish media, anyone who does NOT toe the line is evil.
We already HAVE "state run media", save for a very few organizations like Fox. The fact that they have VOLUNTEERED to give up their freedom of speech and wear the shackles of government is the most bizarre element in the whole passion play.
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LOL, that's exactly the point, doc. Obamacapone is so accustomed to deferential treatment and obedience from the slavish media, anyone who does NOT toe the line is evil.
We already HAVE "state run media", save for a very few organizations like Fox. The fact that they have VOLUNTEERED to give up their freedom of speech and wear the shackles of government is the most bizarre element in the whole passion play.
.... but I don't think they consider them shackles at all. I think they have wanted to toss off the restraint of being honest and fair for being able to jump right in the cool-aid they have always wanted to swim in.
I do like how the White House tosses out the claims of lies and false information being presented by Fox (because it is, of course, really the propaganda arm of the Republican Party ), yet they never point out WHAT those lies and misinformation ARE exactly. But on the other hand Fox is pretty open with its statements, and the White House and staff fail to address any of the things Fox present.
Oh yeah, I am still alive.
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...And in totally unrelated news, Fox enjoys huge increase in ratings and millions of new viewers. CNN continues to fact-check Saturday Nite Live, and is doubtless working feverishly on a major expose of the Comedy Channel network!
I prefer not to listen to unending adulation of the Obamessiah.
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I am really glad that my only choice is not between a coupl eof national, completely bias new networks. Yes CNN is completely liberal, from the CEO right down to the guy that sweeps the floors. But you can not for one second tell me that Fox is not completely Convservative (Republican). People like Beck, you know the guys that congradulated Bush on such a job well done, are so republican I am surprised they have not tried to get their name on the ballot. Just remember when you say Fox is the only station allowed in my house, if you have kids, you are taking away a choice from them ... and that choice is a guarenteed freedom of your Constitution, that most every republican sticks to word for word (rightfully so in most cases, not so much in others).
Anyways, on the actual subject, Obama really needs to lay off the attacks on Fox, while they are extremely bias against him, they have every right to be, and have every right to question and rip apart every move he makes ... that peice of paper that you swore to uphold gives that to them. I really do wish their was just one American national news station that could report the news on a non bias note, it would be a nice change.
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I am really glad that my only choice is not between a coupl eof national, completely bias new networks. Yes CNN is completely liberal, from the CEO right down to the guy that sweeps the floors. But you can not for one second tell me that Fox is not completely Convservative (Republican). .....
Unlike the big 3 networks, IMO, FNC is the only one giving out straight facts. No, they don't drink the koolaid like the other networks, but then again, I didn't see one news "anchor" from Fox, crying or shedding a tear the night Obama was elected.
Flipping back and forth that night thru the channels, it was painfully obvious "whose side the networks were on" as some were downright crying for joy, while others were wiping away tears of joy when their messiah got elected. Telling people that history was made and how change was coming blah blah blah, it almost made me sick.
Funny how no one in the White House can even give a specific story, or even facts about a story, to refute what Fox is reporting, yet Fox can give SEVERAL facts refuting the WH?
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The day CNN aired the video story from Iraq where their crews were WITH al Qaida, and were breathlessly excited when they got to film an al Qaida sniper as he lined up on an American Marine, and then put a bullet through the young man's brain...
CNN died for me that day.
If I enter a business, a restaurant, a bar, a lounge, a barber shop, and they have CNN on the tube, I immediately request they change it to another channel - ANY other channel.
If they refuse I leave. Period.
I live in Atlanta, CNN's home base. I have done work FOR CNN in the past, and gotten paid, cashed their checks. No more. Those phone calls go unanswered.
There are some things that are unforgiveable. Throwing away their journalistic ethics is CLOSE, but the sniper story was way over the line.
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Claiming bias or that someone does not "like" you is no proof that the things said are untrue. While Fox may be in the opposite corner to the White House, that does not by default mean what they report is FALSE.
And as has been stated by others, the WH has failed to actually point out any "untruths" being presented by Fox News or even any of their OP ED shows.
The WH has really lost this battle. And the more they try this crap, they less solid ground they will have for anything they say. While some News Networks will always be in their corner, it is being seen that some of them that tend to lean Left are calling foul on this type of attack as well. They are realizing that if they let Fox get attacked like this, they may be next if they report things the WH does not "approve" of.
And honestly, the WH has ended up looking pretty stupid because of all this (well, and other stuff to).
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CNN died in 1991 when they sucked up to Saddam Hussain so they could be the exclusive news org. on the ground in Baghdad when the Gulf war started.
The only good thing that came out of that was that Bernard Shaw was quick to retire afterwards due to the stress of all those Air Force bombs ratteling his brain and turning his hair white as snow!
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The day CNN aired the video story from Iraq where their crews were WITH al Qaida, and were breathlessly excited when they got to film an al Qaida sniper as he lined up on an American Marine, and then put a bullet through the young man's brain...
I don't watch CNN at all, or CBS, NBC, and Fox news (i will watch their TV shows, just not the news). They are all bias and trying to promote their own political agenda. Of course they were not crying joyfully when Obama won, they don't like what he stood for. Even if he had been the best for the country (he was not) they would have hated him simply because he is not republican.
And Fox has absolutely no credibility. When they actually put a show on like Red Eye and let them blame Canada for the majority of the problems going on in the States. Calling us east followers and worst of all claiming that our Prime Minister lives in an igloo and hunts moose instead of running the country properly just because we don't conform to the Fox view of how things in Afgan should be handled. Currently Canadian soldiers have been the front lines in Afgan while the american soldiers did their thing in Iraq, and that was just not good enough for this show as they put them down on that too.
Just to help show you that yes even Fox is horribly bias and can be absolutely wrong and out of line. Again though I still hold that Obama needs to keep his hands off of the news broadcasters and news papers. Free speach and Free press are both things that even the president is not allowed to remove.
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Jwalks, you are saying that CNN, CBS and NBC hate Obama because he is NOT Republican? Sorry man, that is SO far from all of the rest of the respondents' experience (and I DO watch tons of news, all channels, EXCEPT for CNN of course, as I mentioned earlier).
The double standard is really not debateable, its a direct result of the facts, including the fact that over 80% (87% is the number that sticks in my head, but I think that was during the Kerry campaign) of the reporters and producers in the media vote Democrat (and this overall percentage INCLUDES Fox News).
I have no idea what Red Eye is, and have never watched that program. Is it a regular on Fox News, or was it some sort of special? From your description, it sounds much more like some comedy skit, which would be rare for the News organization, but something the Fox Network might air.
Do I REALLY have to relate the equally crass characterizations that Canadian television and the BBC visit on us long-suffering Americans, all the time, and for decades? I religiously suggest that NO American subscribe to the BBC America channel for this reason, though they have some good shows (Top Gear is fun, as long as you can fast forward through the lame anti-American jokes, and stay focused on the cars - and yes, this is one to watch IF you can get it free, but NEVER subscribe to pay them money for it).
But I fully support your idea that you should not watch anything that makes a habit out of insulting you and yours. I do that myself.
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I don't watch CNN at all, or CBS, NBC, and Fox news (i will watch their TV shows, just not the news). They are all bias and trying to promote their own political agenda. Of course they were not crying joyfully when Obama won, they don't like what he stood for. Even if he had been the best for the country (he was not) they would have hated him simply because he is not republican.
And Fox has absolutely no credibility. When they actually put a show on like Red Eye and let them blame Canada for the majority of the problems going on in the States. Calling us east followers and worst of all claiming that our Prime Minister lives in an igloo and hunts moose instead of running the country properly just because we don't conform to the Fox view of how things in Afgan should be handled. Currently Canadian soldiers have been the front lines in Afgan while the american soldiers did their thing in Iraq, and that was just not good enough for this show as they put them down on that too.
Just to help show you that yes even Fox is horribly bias and can be absolutely wrong and out of line. Again though I still hold that Obama needs to keep his hands off of the news broadcasters and news papers. Free speach and Free press are both things that even the president is not allowed to remove.
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Trip,
Redeye was a LATE LATE LATE (read: very early in the morning... as in the Flights) Fox show that was NOT serious. Its panels were actually made up of COMEDIANS. It was tongue and cheek, and the exact show that is talked about above was similar to those US vs Canada "war" spoof movies that we have seen.
So to lump THAT in with Fox News is a bit off base to say the least. And unfortunately the fact that someone would bring that up shows that their base arguments are out of ignorance and they fell for the "scandal of the moment" without even checking out the facts of the matter.
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Jwalks, you are saying that CNN, CBS and NBC hate Obama because he is NOT Republican? Sorry man, that is SO far from all of the rest of the respondents' experience (and I DO watch tons of news, all channels, EXCEPT for CNN of course, as I mentioned earlier).
The double standard is really not debateable, its a direct result of the facts, including the fact that over 80% (87% is the number that sticks in my head, but I think that was during the Kerry campaign) of the reporters and producers in the media vote Democrat (and this overall percentage INCLUDES Fox News).
I have no idea what Red Eye is, and have never watched that program. Is it a regular on Fox News, or was it some sort of special? From your description, it sounds much more like some comedy skit, which would be rare for the News organization, but something the Fox Network might air.
Do I REALLY have to relate the equally crass characterizations that Canadian television and the BBC visit on us long-suffering Americans, all the time, and for decades? I religiously suggest that NO American subscribe to the BBC America channel for this reason, though they have some good shows (Top Gear is fun, as long as you can fast forward through the lame anti-American jokes, and stay focused on the cars - and yes, this is one to watch IF you can get it free, but NEVER subscribe to pay them money for it).
But I fully support your idea that you should not watch anything that makes a habit out of insulting you and yours. I do that myself.
Red Eye is hosted by the flaming gay dude and is usually just about cultural things, Movies, Games, fashions, and pop culture caca. Not a news show at all.
As far as Fox news being completely conservative, that is very far off base. Geraldo? Shep Smith? Alan Colmes (while he was on)?
No, even O'Reilly and Hannity give a lot of time to air the liberals' viewpoints.
As far as their news shows go, I have yet to hear a newscaster mock Obamessiah. They just tell what's going on, and rarely will offer their opinions.
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Jwalks, you are saying that CNN, CBS and NBC hate Obama because he is NOT Republican? Sorry man, that is SO far from all of the rest of the respondents' experience (and I DO watch tons of news, all channels, EXCEPT for CNN of course, as I mentioned earlier).
Not exactly how I put it ... CNN, CBS, and NBC are all pro obama, even a blind man can see that. My point was that all of the major news networks in the states have a politcal bias. I was just trying to point out that it's not only CNN and Fox that have horrible bias towards one politcal party or the other.
Canadian news does not usually cast Americans in a negative light (exception Bush). Most of the time if a Canadian media source prints something that is anti-american or poking a little more fun than they should it is immediately pulled and apologized for (it's what we are known for ... always saying Sorry, even if we didn't do anything wrong ... sorry for the side note). British news sources are horrible for portraying both Canada and US in a rather poor light, I also do not watch these.
Anyways my point was that while every news source does somethings wrong I can't watch the American channels because all they do is promote their own, singular, political agenda. Most Canadian news channels will provide you with a person on both sides of the political line for a fair argument. Much easier to watch than a channel trying to force feed you ideals.
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Trip,
Redeye was a LATE LATE LATE (read: very early in the morning... as in the Flights) Fox show that was NOT serious. Its panels were actually made up of COMEDIANS.
I realize that this was a late show. I realize that part of it is comedy. But there are some main rules that are to be followed even in comedy. If a show went of the air and made fun of American troops would any one actually let them get away with it, joking or not. It is rude to imply that people defending the rights and freedoms of an entire nation (not to mention helping out other countries, since we are there for the UN) are doing anything other than a fantastic job (unless they are having lots of friendly fire or doing things that are worse than the acts of the terrorists). Sorry if implied I take things seriously that this show produces, it's really just a cheap low-brow version of the Daily Show or the Colbert Report.
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), yet they never point out WHAT those lies and misinformation ARE exactly. But on the other hand Fox is pretty open with its statements, and the White House and staff fail to address any of the things Fox present. 
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