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Old 10-20-2009   #1 (permalink)
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I'm sorry, I'm gonna admit by saying that this is going to be a loaded question, but what are everyone's feelings on it? I'm not talking about gay marriage, just homosexuality in general? I realize I go to a very liberal school, and until a recent event I had forgotten that outside of my little college campus we still live in a world where people "Burn the fags." I just had a friend of mine hang himself yesterday morning because of not being accepted in a world of queer bashers. Sadly, he went to a school that was much more conservative than mine. I just kinda felt like venting about it as it bothers me. . . .
So what is it like in everyone's areas? Is homosexuality accepted, or are there groups with pitchforks and flaming pikes hurting people? Or some happy median in between?
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if gay is your way thats ok, just dont bring it on to me, my brother is gay.... so you know dont bother me jsut dont be comeing on to me you know

sorry about your friend, i know the feeling
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if gay is your way thats ok, just dont bring it on to me, my brother is gay.... so you know dont bother me jsut dont be comeing on to me you know
lol as I go to a school with a lot of people who are homosexual, I've had to form a solid opinion on it. Tried to sway a girl once to become my girlfriend. . .turned out she was a lesbian. . ..Needless to say I was a bit upset by this turn of events
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Oh god man, I'm really sorry to hear about your friend. My prayers are with him and his family.


I'm neutral towards it. I'm definitely not pro-gay marriage or anything like that, but I can accept people for who they are. I'm really not a fan of the gay flamers though.
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First off, sorry to hear about your friend. It's always a shame to hear about something such as that.

As for homosexuality, I'm against it. I believe it's not natural. I'm against gay marriage, for lack of better terms, as I believe marriage is strictly a God sanctioned relationship between a man and a woman.
However, I do not hate or dislike those who choose that lifestyle; keyword being "choose." People are not born gay or lesbian. It's not natural for humans to be like that. It's not how we are made. Some may say that it's an animal instinct in some cases and humans are animals. Again, I disagree. If we were animals than we wouldn't have a conscience, ethics, or a soul. I'm against the lifestyle.
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First off, sorry to hear about your friend. It's always a shame to hear about something such as that.

As for homosexuality, I'm against it. I believe it's not natural. I'm against gay marriage, for lack of better terms, as I believe marriage is strictly a God sanctioned relationship between a man and a woman.
However, I do not hate or dislike those who choose that lifestyle; keyword being "choose." People are not born gay or lesbian. It's not natural for humans to be like that. It's not how we are made. Some may say that it's an animal instinct in some cases and humans are animals. Again, I disagree. If we were animals than we wouldn't have a conscience, ethics, or a soul. I'm against the lifestyle.
Very well put.

I don't hate gay people. I honestly don't care what people choose to do. I just have a problem when they try to push it on me.

My own opinion is that homosexuality is not natural, just as 02GTmuscle said. Humans are very different than all other animals. I don't believe in evolution. Yes, I'm a Christian and I believe the Bible. But even if I wasn't a Christian, I just think the odds for evolution are too small to happen. But back to the point.... it really doesn't matter what you wanna do in your own house.
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Personal opinion, there should be no discrimination of any sort whether it is against gays, transgender, blacks, whites, etc... sadly human nature is to be aggressive, and it's just one way of satisfying that urge. Never will anybody be equal in the eyes of someone. People just need to keep on doing what is right for them, not worry about what other people think.

on another note, seriously jep? It is easier to believe something written by a bunch of control freaks thousands of years ago, than modern science? Im not bashing Christianity by any means, i respect Jesus Christ, but find it hard to believe that some being made everything there is, how did that being come about? maybe It's both, give evolution a shot, if you go to the right sources it makes alot of sense, maybe a deity facilitated evolution, and prior to that evolved into that deity.

02GTmuscle.....wow, nice, why does it bother you so much? Either way, humans are animals, we are mammals, relatives (distant as hell mind you but nevertheless) of Apes. I am not trying to hate, just trying to figure out where the thinking comes in.
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First off, sorry to hear about your friend. It's always a shame to hear about something such as that.

As for homosexuality, I'm against it. I believe it's not natural. I'm against gay marriage, for lack of better terms, as I believe marriage is strictly a God sanctioned relationship between a man and a woman.
However, I do not hate or dislike those who choose that lifestyle; keyword being "choose." People are not born gay or lesbian. It's not natural for humans to be like that. It's not how we are made. Some may say that it's an animal instinct in some cases and humans are animals. Again, I disagree. If we were animals than we wouldn't have a conscience, ethics, or a soul. I'm against the lifestyle.
That what I think. Humans by design threw evolution need to reproduce to keep the species alive. So you need to basically over ride your natural instinct and CHOOSE that life style. And i strongly believe in evolution so most of the god stuff doesn't come into play here lol.
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Personal opinion, there should be no discrimination of any sort whether it is against gays, transgender, blacks, whites, etc... sadly human nature is to be aggressive, and it's just one way of satisfying that urge. Never will anybody be equal in the eyes of someone. People just need to keep on doing what is right for them, not worry about what other people think.

on another note, seriously jep? It is easier to believe something written by a bunch of control freaks thousands of years ago, than modern science? Im not bashing Christianity by any means, i respect Jesus Christ, but find it hard to believe that some being made everything there is, how did that being come about? maybe It's both, give evolution a shot, if you go to the right sources it makes alot of sense, maybe a deity facilitated evolution, and prior to that evolved into that deity.

02GTmuscle.....wow, nice, why does it bother you so much? Either way, humans are animals, we are mammals, relatives (distant as hell mind you but nevertheless) of Apes. I am not trying to hate, just trying to figure out where the thinking comes in.
Yeah...I'm serious. I went to public school. I have heard both sides of the argument. And evolution is a theory, not a scientific fact. So yes my belief in Creationism outweighs the theory of evolution. For me. I think it's funny that science has been unable to prove the theory of evolution. So until science can do so, I will stick to Creationism. It makes more sense to me. As a side note, creationism does not imply Christianity. I recommend you watch the movie "Expelled" by Ben Stein. It opened my eyes to a whole lot of things I had never considered.

Evolution is such a tricky topic. I'm not saying that animals don't change or adapt to their environment. Different birds can mate to create new species of birds. But I don't see anything that would cause me to believe that every animal can be traced back to some kind of micro-organism.
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Yeah...I'm serious. I went to public school. I have heard both sides of the argument. And evolution is a theory, not a scientific fact. So yes my belief in Creationism outweighs the theory of evolution. For me. I think it's funny that science has been unable to prove the theory of evolution. So until science can do so, I will stick to Creationism. It makes more sense to me. As a side note, creationism does not imply Christianity. I recommend you watch the movie "Expelled" by Ben Stein. It opened my eyes to a whole lot of things I had never considered.

Evolution is such a tricky topic. I'm not saying that animals don't change or adapt to their environment. Different birds can mate to create new species of birds. But I don't see anything that would cause me to believe that every animal can be traced back to some kind of micro-organism.
Im not at all trying to debunk your religion but there is not a lot you can believe in the bible also. Like the earth being made by God in 6 days and he rested on the 7th some 6000 years ago. We can prove that wrong easly.

But I'll have to check that movie out. I love to hear everyones opinions on this kinda stuff...And I also like to argue about it haha
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I find it very interesting that in one breath many people can say “anything’s fine” and then with the next the will insult people who believe differently than they do.

The ACT of homosexuality is a choice. I don’t believe that the DESIRE is a choice though. But the same goes for people who are attracted to animals, pre-pubescent children, shoes, you name it. And on a smaller scale we see that with heterosexuals as well…. some are attracted to breasts, some to legs, one hair color or another, some to thin and others to “thick”. It is just how we are wired and what does it for us.

But like I said, how we deal with that and act upon it is where CHOICE comes into play. So while people may get all upset when others point out that Homosexuality is a CHOICE, it is indeed a choice…. at least in the acts. What makes us better than animals is that we can control our urges, and we dictate our actions, not the other way around. Falling back on “the animal kingdom” is only a weak argument aimed to further take away personal responsibility.

I am personally opposed to the homosexual lifestyle. I would never do what is described in the first post though. I think that is ignorant and uncalled for. But with that said, I am tired of having homosexuality thrown in my face all the time. I am tired of homosexuals on one hand acting as if they are “just like everyone else” and then have them putting their “gay pride” and other homosexual symbols all over the place. You are either just like everyone else, or you are not. And yes, I have had this very discussion with people who are gay… and I have also found that many of them AGREE. There are other issues as well, but I think that is good enough to address the base issue of the thread.
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I am so sorry to hear about your friend... what a sad day for you, I am sure.

Homosexuality is one thing I have never had a problem with. "To each his own."
It means so much more to me that you are a good human.
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Being a christian myself, I don't believe in the homosexual way at all. As has already been stated it is a choice. It is in no way natural. I am also tired of hearing about some of the stuff they get away with. I mean how is right that they can wave their flags around and have parades and such, but someone can't even have an American flag at their home these days without someone getting offended.
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I am personally opposed to the homosexual lifestyle. I would never do what is described in the first post though. I think that is ignorant and uncalled for. But with that said, I am tired of having homosexuality thrown in my face all the time. I am tired of homosexuals on one hand acting as if they are “just like everyone else” and then have them putting their “gay pride” and other homosexual symbols all over the place. You are either just like everyone else, or you are not. And yes, I have had this very discussion with people who are gay… and I have also found that many of them AGREE. There are other issues as well, but I think that is good enough to address the base issue of the thread.
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Being a christian myself, I don't believe in the homosexual way at all. As has already been stated it is a choice. It is in no way natural. I am also tired of hearing about some of the stuff they get away with. I mean how is right that they can wave their flags around and have parades and such, but someone can't even have an American flag at their home these days without someone getting offended.
I have no objections to homosexuality. Whatever 2 consenting adults want to do in private is their own business, and the rest of society should keep out of it.

I have several friends who are gay. Their relationships are more similar to heterosexual relationships than you might imagine. They would love to be treated just like anyone else, but they are not (and this in one of the most liberal cities in the world). They want the same civil rights that heterosexuals enjoy. Complaining about gay pride marches and other symbols today is the same as complaining about the civil rights marches in the South in the 1960s. You don't like to see some opressed group asserting themselves and standing up for their rights? Well, tough.
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