He gave me a ticket not the other way around. I just have to prove his wasn't calibrated, not that mine was.
OK, if you want to try and play it that way go right ahead.
Or you could listen to the advice of a guy who's had 20 speeding tickets in his life and never lost his license. It's your issue to deal with either way. Be sure to let us know how it works out for you.
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those tickets are pure bs!
and yes, some cops are di*ks, some are fair and good people. seems like you got a d*ck. it happens unfortunately, but the cold reality is that when you have people in positions of power over their fellow citizen there is inevitably going to be someone who will abuse that power. hope you beat those tickets bud
I think this is one time that I'm not going to jump into the Law Enforcement discussion (read my previous posts), I've got too much crap to deal with here at the moment.
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Like it was said, good luck in trying to make the trooper look incompetent. It won't work so be prepared to be made to look like a hotshot kid who needs to be taught a lesson.
I'm not siding with the police, I personally don't think it was right in what they did, but taking on the trooper and trying that tactic isn't going to put you in the best light which will then put you on the negative side before you finish. Without actual expert input on that math problem you came up with, it won't fly.
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Well don't ya think violent crime is slightly more important than some guy in a mustang going 5 mph over the limit? Now if that Trooper were stopping some violent crime I would say wow yay.
State Troopers, in my opinion, rarely work crime scenes as the local City Police or County Sheriffs do that. If needed, however they can be called in by any agency that requests help. A Troopers duty is usually limited to enforcing traffic laws (speeding, reckless driving, dui, dwi, etc.) and working traffic accidents.
You say people who dislike cops must be doing something wrong, well it seems close to impossible not to do something wrong. I don't care who ya are, if ya leave the house your breaking the law. You might think nah not me...but I see how people drive. No turn signal is so comon. Hardly no one comes to a complete stop unless they just can't go right then. Some people drive 45 in a 55 then when it drops down to 35 they keep going 45! I drive about 80 miles a day and it seems to me everyone does something that is against the law. I sure wish I could drive with my seat belt off from time to time. I get tired of looking for speed limit signs, speed traps, no turn on red from 4pm to 8pm mon thru fri. exept on a new moon signs, cameras, buckle up and roll up your window when its raining. I have not had a ticket in over 10 years but I dont think it should be so hard to not break the law. Im sorry for using the "hate" word. The older I get the more I feel smothered by the creeping mommy-state, and the hyper-regulation of practically everything.
All those people who regularly commit those infractions you mentioned are just like you. They think, well everyone else is doing it so why shouldn't I? True, most of them never get caught but that is no excuse for dis-regarding the law. If you want to drive like those jerks then do so but don't come crying and whining about the cops doing their jobs. As far as the hyper regulation and being smothered by the Mother state then don't let the gate hit you in the butt on the way out of the USA.
State Troopers, in my opinion, rarely work crime scenes as the local City Police or County Sheriffs do that. If needed, however they can be called in by any agency that requests help. A Troopers duty is usually limited to enforcing traffic laws (speeding, reckless driving, dui, dwi, etc.) and working traffic accidents.
Well if that traffic accident ended in a violent crime...then I would say, wow yay ? There are all kinds of serious crimes on the road. I hear the rolling meth lab is popular or he could be busting the guy with a truck full of illegal guns, something, come on! Or maybe he needs to lose his job because there is nothing serious for him to attend to!
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All those people who regularly commit those infractions you mentioned are just like you. They think, well everyone else is doing it so why shouldn't I?
I do not intentionally committed infractions because everyone else is. I'm just happy someone knows what everyone is thinking.
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As far as the hyper regulation and being smothered by the Mother state then don't let the gate hit you in the butt on the way out of the USA.
Thanks for the advice I will keep that in mind.
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Well if that traffic accident ended in a violent crime...then I would say, wow yay ? There are all kinds of serious crimes on the road. I hear the rolling meth lab is popular or he could be busting the guy with a truck full of illegal guns, something, come on! Or maybe he needs to lose his job because there is nothing serious for him to attend to!
I agree and they do that when they can but there is the small item called probable cause. If the Trooper is suspicious of a certain vehicle he attempts to secure probable cause to stop said vehicle by finding infractions of the Motor Vehicle Code. If he cannot find an infraction then he has no probable cause to stop said vehicle.
If, however someone intentionally passes him by exceeding the speed limit, then he is obligated to stop the vehicle and issue a citation. It's his job and the law recognizes very few excuses for excessive speed whether it's 5mph or 15mph.
I do not intentionally committed infractions because everyone else is. I'm just happy someone knows what everyone is thinking.
If you do not commit the infraction because everyone else doing it, then why do you commit the infraction when you know it is illegal?
Thanks for the advice I will keep that in mind.
"I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it." - Thomas Jefferson
If you think that you are exposed to too little freedom then you should spend some time in other countries and compare them to the USA.
Make sure you don't have larger tires than came stock on your car. If so, and the speedo was not recalibrated, you may well have been speeding even though the speedo says you were only 5 over. Also, the paperwork was not correct. You stated that yourself. Just sayin'.
It should be no problem getting the ticket for the sticker dropped. Just bring your paper work to the court date. Remember the officer is not the judge he just witnessed a possible infractment. The judge should see that it was a paperwork issue that you are not trying to do anything wrong.
Now as for the speeding ticket. did he radar you or just pace your speed?
If there is no radar he has no concrete proof that you were speeding which makes it his word aginst yours.
If no radar then you should have an easier chance of getting it dropped.
In Texas you can ask for a trial and if the cop doesn't show then you get the ticket dropped.
Good luck!!! Hope this helped.
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You never want to get into a battle of your word against an officer's word in court. It's just not smart in the least. Officers are paid representatives of the city, county or state. They come before the court as professional witnesses with the utmost of duty and professionalism.
Trust me, it's not something you want to try.
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^^^ That's exactly right. Your word against the trooper... who is the judge going to believe?
Their speedometers are calibrated every few thousand miles and they have that certification. They're trained to be observers and come to court as professional witnesses, it won't be like my neighbor punched me and he says no I didn't.
Plus there's other ways to determine speed other than just radar; they have 2 or 3 systems they can work with.
It's not impossible to beat a troopers word in court, it's just not something you want to place bets on.
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There is good and bad with everything. I would talk to a lawyer but I wouldn't do the "my word vs an officer's word" The judge will look at the officer as being right way before you, unless you had some type of proof.
i've had my run in's with fabricated speeds butif i'm in the wrong, then i man up and just pay. If not, i go to court and fight it. i hate to say but a sporty car is an easy kill though. I have several cop friends, so i can't be told anything different. I know what they've told me and from my own personal experiences. Those friends have even told me they were pulled over in their Mustang or Camaro and it was a BS move. But who know's.
Just get some legal representation and if you get out of it cool, if not, just pay it and move on.
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Why is eveyone so scared to fight a ticket. The worst thing that can happen is you have to pay for the ticket. Which puts you right back in this situation. And lets be honest a lawer is going to charge you what you would pay in fines so why do that.
Its not the state troopers fault you were speeding.
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