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If you haven't seen this, watch it all the way through.
Qaddafi talks of an islamic victory of Europe and North America without swords, without guns, without conquest.

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France is supposed to have a dominant Muslim population in twenty years according to current immigration and birth rates. You gotta be careful about loose border control and poor immigration policies......ask the Mohicans.
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that kinda sucks, never relised we were killing our culture. i wonder what the future holds for us
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Snake, border control and immigration policies really cant dicriminate based on religious preference. We are a country based in large part on religious freedom.

To Tom64 point, that we are killing our culture. But I would have to add that t is not caused so much by immigration, as it is by conversion to Isalm.
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They will make a cool romantic movie about us called the "Last of the Anglo Saxons" someday. Only problem is it will be banned and the director and cast will be executed for violating Islamic law. There is a large group of people in our country whose heads are imbedded so deeply into their rectums that they can't see how the world operates. We need a very large cultural enema. As Tool puts it....Learn to swim, Learn to swim.
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The Islamic conquest will have to compete against the Obama conquest.....
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Obama may be helping the Muslim victory. he is almost above the average with 2.0 kids and his Islamic background from Kenya.
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this is an old one, but again you have to think in opposite way, you have to visit what been called as Islamic country's and see how these countries are effected by american culture and american way of life.

remember that we are in 21's century, i think the whole wold become one country.

and again talking about religions, you born from Christian parents dose make you believe in Christianity??, same thing with Islam and other religions, they just born Muslims but that dose not make real Muslims, assuming Muslims as evil people .

ONEZ ST was right, freedom of practicing religions, most of the people they can practice there religion in america while they cant in there home origin.

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Once the world becomes a single country, we should all place our heads between our legs and kiss our butts goodbye.
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Once the world becomes a single country, we should all place our heads between our legs and kiss our butts goodbye.
couldnt have said that better myself Obama is going to f us over so bad well wish we were islamic
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Good post, abud.

I have traveled a good bit, and its true, American culture (western civilization in general, but "American" in particular) has permeated even the most oppressive muslim states. Their leaders see this, even when we would see only the "otherness".

Cultures and religions set in the 12th century have a hard time adapting. One primary reason for the schizoid reactions we Americans receive almost everywhere IS the power of our culture - and the result of sowing its seeds around the globe, either via military conquest or just by example.

Christianity went through its Reformation, and many died as a result, but it did manage to tone down the most hide-bound and inflexible aspects - and did much to seperate church and state, something which western nations take for granted now.

The one thing which we USED to insist upon from our immigrants was that they become PART of the American experiment. There are those who call this homologation process cruel, but there is no denying that in the past, the first generation landed here and promptly began to adapt to American ways, learn English, and study our system and history with an eye to becoming an American citizen. The dominant American culture tolerated immigrants, but it did NOT coddle them. Those that adapted quickest stood a much better chance of achieving success.

Now we do the opposite. We encourage immigrants to come, legally or even illegally, and to STAY seperate, to retain their original culture, language and viewpoint, and even to expect America to bend and adapt to them rather than the reverse.

This does them no favors, and as these topics demonstrate, may yet do us real damage as well.

To split a narrow but VERY important hair, the problem between immigrants and Americans is NOT their heritage or religion, but their CULTURE, which varies WITHIN various national heritages and religions. By not shifting their allegiance to OUR culture (while retaining their religious beliefs, which of course are protected Rights under our Constitution), some will always hate us and our culture.

There is a BIG difference between "religion" and "culture". Within Islam (the religion) there are MANY cultures, some of them steeped (like Salafi or Wahabbi teachings) in contempt for us, hate for us, and driven to a violent response. Within that sub-culture (for it does NOT represent the majority view of all Muslims by any means), powerful leaders work to tear down us, our culture and even our civilization.

It is not an easy thing, this differentiation between good and evil, but it is best to remember that the rest of the planet goes through this judging process each and every day in seeking to handle the endless flood of American power, culture and influence in their lives.

We have to do our own version of due diligence too, sorting out the sheep from the goats...

Or not, thus supporting some self-blinding idea of political correctness while dooming ourselves to massive problems at some indeterminate future date.

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this is an old one, but again you have to think in opposite way, you have to visit what been called as Islamic country's and see how these countries are effected by american culture and american way of life.

remember that we are in 21's century, i think the whole wold become one country.

and again talking about religions, you born from Christian parents dose make you believe in Christianity??, same thing with Islam and other religions, they just born Muslims but that dose not make real Muslims, assuming Muslims as evil people .

ONEZ ST was right, freedom of practicing religions, most of the people they can practice there religion in america while they cant in there home origin.

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Good post, abud.

I have traveled a good bit, and its true, American culture (western civilization in general, but "American" in particular) has permeated even the most oppressive muslim states. Their leaders see this, even when we would see only the "otherness".

Cultures and religions set in the 12th century have a hard time adapting. One primary reason for the schizoid reactions we Americans receive almost everywhere IS the power of our culture - and the result of sowing its seeds around the globe, either via military conquest or just by example.

Christianity went through its Reformation, and many died as a result, but it did manage to tone down the most hide-bound and inflexible aspects - and did much to seperate church and state, something which western nations take for granted now.

The one thing which we USED to insist upon from our immigrants was that they become PART of the American experiment. There are those who call this homologation process cruel, but there is no denying that in the past, the first generation landed here and promptly began to adapt to American ways, learn English, and study our system and history with an eye to becoming an American citizen. The dominant American culture tolerated immigrants, but it did NOT coddle them. Those that adapted quickest stood a much better chance of achieving success.

Now we do the opposite. We encourage immigrants to come, legally or even illegally, and to STAY seperate, to retain their original culture, language and viewpoint, and even to expect America to bend and adapt to them rather than the reverse.

This does them no favors, and as these topics demonstrate, may yet do us real damage as well.

To split a narrow but VERY important hair, the problem between immigrants and Americans is NOT their heritage or religion, but their CULTURE, which varies WITHIN various national heritages and religions. By not shifting their allegiance to OUR culture (while retaining their religious beliefs, which of course are protected Rights under our Constitution), some will always hate us and our culture.

There is a BIG difference between "religion" and "culture". Within Islam (the religion) there are MANY cultures, some of them steeped (like Salafi or Wahabbi teachings) in contempt for us, hate for us, and driven to a violent response. Within that sub-culture (for it does NOT represent the majority view of all Muslims by any means), powerful leaders work to tear down us, our culture and even our civilization.

It is not an easy thing, this differentiation between good and evil, but it is best to remember that the rest of the planet goes through this judging process each and every day in seeking to handle the endless flood of American power, culture and influence in their lives.

We have to do our own version of due diligence too, sorting out the sheep from the goats...

Or not, thus supporting some self-blinding idea of political correctness while dooming ourselves to massive problems at some indeterminate future date.
very well say tripleblack, i just wanna add more, i think in american history it happened many times, first with Italian immigrants then chines and finally with maxicans, nothing happened they all melted in the american culture.

second about Muslim wahabi, i have to add that there are 2 wings for that movement, the right wing which represented by Saudi royal family and Saudi government and they are the most important american allies in that regent.

the left wahabi wing is represented by usama bin laden and others,

just to clear the picture...

for me, am not wahabi or any thing else, am just a simple Muslim follow the quran and common sense

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