Went out to the movies this weekend and saw it. Definately recommend it for everyone to go see. bush lovers and haters. Everyone needs to see this movie. dont let others try to convince you not to see it either. There were two guys outside the theater trying to tell me what i should see (white chix) and shouldnt (farenheit). i told them to shove it. obviously they are afraid we'll learn something. like maybe our president is full of it. You wont understand until you see the movie. i was open mouth gaping the entire time. see for yourself dont take other peoples word for it i cant stress that enough.
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ya man, sounds like a plan!!!.....NOT! i'm not wasting my money on that, i'm waiting for spiderman 2. HELL YA!!!!!
just got off Fandango for the tickets!
its not propaganda...its just clips of what bush has actually done. what are you afraid of? hearing and seeing your president in action? sounds like someone just doesnt want to face reality. just go see the movie and if you think its propaganda then you might want to go check on the definition. to me its just a documentary of our country for the last four years. he says nothing negative about bush AT ALL. the audience is left to decide if hes a good prez or not. i prefer that you people that automatically assume its propaganda DONT go see it actually because you shouldnt be allowed to vote because you obviously dont have common sense (aka mental capacity) to think for yourself and be rational. just go see spiderman 2 and leave all the political stuff up to the grown-ups. If youre that worried about the 7 bucks ill go buy the ticket for you. other than that you really have no reason not to go.
PS im not a democrat or republican so im not some left wing fanatic trying to convince everyone to hate bush. Just go see a movie that skips all the BS and sheds some light on a few topics.
and no you dont HAVE to vote for kerry if you dont like bush. Theres plenty of other choices on the card if you like. Or just dont vote at all. thats what most people do anyway, just sit around and watch others run the country and ***** and moan when its in shambles.
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Last edited by NoobAStang; 06-28-2004 at 10:51 PM.
spoken like a man that likes his BS served right fresh up to him without any of that "different angle" stuff to get in your way.no need for any lenghty reasons as to why hes a POS, just throw it in there and hope for some head nods from the peanut gallery. Dig in. you just further my point that no one hates him cause he lies. They just hate him because he says whats not normal and some people just cant seem to grasp the fact that that MIGHT be the truth and what we hear every day is a lie. Your SOOO right he is such a POS. Im just gonna go back to believing what i see on tv about what a great president he is and not go any further into the matter.
thanks for helping me "see the light"
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OK, so if we don't go see the movie with an open mind we shouldn't be allowed to vote?? HMMMMMMMMMM.....yeah, that sounds like a great idea. And let's just never allow open debate or freedom of choice in the country ever again. We'll just be a country of mindless drones. I refuse to go see it because I go to movies for entertainment value. If I want to hear people talk politics and listen to spin doctors, i'll watch C-SPAN or one of our many illustrious mass media networks report news. I'm not gonna spend my hard earned money to watch that. This grown up has made up his mind and I still happen to not agree with Michael Moore about just about every issue he's ever made a movie about. I really don't think that assuming people don't want to go see a political movie should disqualify them from the ranks of the intelligent. It most definitely should not place them in the ranks with felons because that's exactly what you're doing when you make a statement like 'they shouldn't be allowed to vote'. Voting is a right of every single American over the age of 18 and who is not in a federal prison.
Sometimes I wonder about the people I have sworn to defend with my life.
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OK, so if we don't go see the movie with an open mind we shouldn't be allowed to vote?? HMMMMMMMMMM.....yeah, that sounds like a great idea. And let's just never allow open debate or freedom of choice in the country ever again. We'll just be a country of mindless drones. I refuse to go see it because I go to movies for entertainment value. If I want to hear people talk politics and listen to spin doctors, i'll watch C-SPAN or one of our many illustrious mass media networks report news. I'm not gonna spend my hard earned money to watch that. This grown up has made up his mind and I still happen to not agree with Michael Moore about just about every issue he's ever made a movie about. I really don't think that assuming people don't want to go see a political movie should disqualify them from the ranks of the intelligent. It most definitely should not place them in the ranks with felons because that's exactly what you're doing when you make a statement like 'they shouldn't be allowed to vote'. Voting is a right of every single American over the age of 18 and who is not in a federal prison.
Sometimes I wonder about the people I have sworn to defend with my life.
Exactly my point with the c-span crap. They never have a different angle. youre just spoon fed the same stuff every day. They will never have points like mchael moore makes in his movie cause they are afraid of losing ratings. Period. And you dont have to agree with him, Just LISTEN to him, or not, you dont have to . It doesnt make you unintelligent to NOT see the movie, but to label it something its not just because youre pissed at michael moore does. Me, i have listened to C-Span, but also to farenheit, and i dont buy the crap i hear everyday.
oh and by the way, alot of other people that have sworn their life to defend this country wonder about their leaders, and theyre the ones dying everyday. EVEN they dont know what theyre doing over there. (clips from the movie from michael interviewing soldiers, so dont argue that)
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A man that gives up a little freedom, for a little security, will have neither, and deserves neither. ~ Benjamin Franklin
You say that Michael Moore just presents the facts but the networks are worried about nothing but their ratings. If you don't think for a split second that Moore doesn't have a politcal agenda then you're sadly mistaken. Apparently you didn't read what I said about C-SPAN very well. reread that and maybe you'll realize that I was saying if I want to listen to some spin doctor, then I'll watch C-SPAN or the network news. Now, about his interviews with the soldiers. Do you really think that the ones he shows in his movie are the only ones he interviewed. I'd be willing to bet that he sat through about as many interviews with people saying things he DIDN'T want to use as the ones he used. But you won't see that in the movie nor will it be in any deleted scenes anywhere. Oh yeah, and I'll label it a POS movie because that's what I think of Roger & Me and Bowling for Columbine also and I'm just not going to waste my time nor my money to watch this POS.
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Sometimes I think that government fits that old-fashioned definition of a baby: An alimentary canal with an appetite at one end and no sense of responsibility at the other.
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There was one VERY important soldier he followed throughout the movie. A dead one. and the soldiers mother read his final letter that he wrote home. it basically said from what i can remember "me and the guys are so mad at bush. i hope they do not elect that idiot again. honestly." and again, for you slow people, THOSE ARE NOT MY WORDS. sounds like more than a few are pissed over there. and now one of them is dead fighting for something he doesnt even think is right?
all i said was i strongly recommended the movie for EVERYONE. i never asked for any bush supporters to come flying out of the bushes and claim PROPAGANDA!!!! run for your lives. cause ill be damned if i EVER hear anyone talk good about bush on the streets or in person, only on the internet, while they have google to type in "good things bush has done" to save their ass if they get in any ruts. Im just a guy whos tired of hearing the same crap over and over and wanted to hear something new and figured yall might want to give it a shot. If not fine. i really dont care. Just thought yall might want something to see thats worth seeing.
quit flaming me with your "but this and but that" of course hes done some things right otherwise he would have been impeached long ago. but they just dont make up for his mistakes is all im saying. And i know alot of troops see it my way also so i feel confident when i say "anyone but bush"
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A man that gives up a little freedom, for a little security, will have neither, and deserves neither. ~ Benjamin Franklin
those are pretty much my feelings but Iwas tryin to be nice. But I get called slow by some 18 year old who also wants to take away my right to vote because I think Michael Moore is a propagandist with his own political agenda.
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Sometimes I think that government fits that old-fashioned definition of a baby: An alimentary canal with an appetite at one end and no sense of responsibility at the other.
- Ronald Reagan
Michael Moore's use of creative editting to get to his supposed truths amazes me. I wouldn't waste my $10 to sit in that theatre if it was the last movie on earth. I'll wait for "Michael Moore Hates America" to come out instead.
Moore has not made a single movie where his cut and paste editing does not take factual situations and make them FALSE. Anyone who knows anything about Moore, his history, his films, etc. knows that he is a fraud as well as his films.
I have a saying… Facts don’t always equal the truth. And with Moore, it is oh so true. When you arrange factual things in an manner that is not truthful, you are telling a lie.
There have been countless interviews with professionals in the media and politics that have seen the movie, and they ALL state that the movie is a total lie. And Moore himself, when cornered on the matter, openly stated that it is all his “opinion”. How can you try to pass something off as factual, but then state it is all opinon?
Moore does not make documentaries, he makes fictional work using cleaver editing, mixing with lies, and slight of hand techniques to stir up hate and misinformation. But heck, that is how he makes his money. Yeah, Mr. “Common Man/common worker” wearing sweatshirts and ripped up ball caps and hardly ever shaving…. Ask him about his bank account. Ask him about his properties. I will not go further…..
Anyone who believes a singe word out of Moore’s mouth or his films should come on over, I have some ocean front property in Arizona for sale….. I will even show you pictures of it.
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