What if there was a section for Threads where Mustang fans could go to discuss politics and you never had to go to that section AND Politics would be prohibited from the other sections?
What if...huh?....huh? what if....?
That dosen't solve the problem here Mike. If the Political section is part of AFM then I am responsible for making sure it follows the AFM Rules. Period ! That means I have to read and moderate the Political Thread and that takes away my time for looking after the Mustang Forums. We want this to be the best Mustang Site not Political Site.
And before you say, "Make the Political Section Un-Moderated" well that goes against what AFM stands for. Every part of AFM is moderated so that anyone of any age can come onto this site and enjoy themselves without fear of being bashed or reading offensive material.
Sorry, but political threads just soak up Moderators time to baby sit them when they should be looking after Mustang related threads. Somthing needs to be done.
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WARNING! When you ban one type of speech, you start down a really slippery slope!...No more discussions of fuel prices and their causes. No more discussing how CAFE standards effect the automobile industry.....and on and on.
If you do not want to discuss politics....DON'T CLICK ON THE THREAD!
I'm not talking about calling dirty names, or porn BTW. Any well run site has banished this type of post long ago.
awesome. Go get em moderators.! Im your #1 Fan. I wanna wake up one day and go check the forums and see "smoked a camaro" at the top of the forum page. not "hey guys heres our chance to yell and scream and ***** at each other"
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My opinion is that like it or not, if you are involved with automobiles, YOU ARE involved with politics.
I for one have a great interest in politics and would find myself posting on other forums and since my time on the internet is limited, that site that let political discussions take place would end up getting my participation more so than one that limited political speech.
Automobiles are what they are or are not because of politics.
If you want to stick your head in the sand....go ahead, but don't expect those that want to be educated and discuss ALL aspects of life and the involvement of politics in it to sit still.
I for one am VERY tired of seeing posts about girl friends and other problems completely unrelated to automobiles but you don't see me wanting to ban them.
I voted to make a forum for it there's no reason to ban them. some people post on them, A LOT. Others see them as merely a nuisance. I used to somewhat enjoy them. Now I roll my eyes everytime I see a new one pop up.
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Flaming is not easily defined, but on most forums it is banned. For instance we have a certain member that seems destined to put something up everyone's ass. That type of talk gets you banned on most sites.
The question has been asked what to limit....the real question to ask is where the limitations are to start as some have already broken the stated rules many times.
Limit the trespassers and those that misuse a privilege. Do not limit free political speech because of a few that have nothing to contribute but flaming.
Political threads are easily discerned so why even consider making a 'special forum' for that.
i dont think they are easily discerned......they seem to be at the very top every day, which further prevents people from responding to any other threads....
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well the rest of us think that they are ruining the forums because they arent really political threads at all, just insults. heres how they all start.
First its all just discussion 100% discussion 0% Name calling
then about halfway through one individual jumps into the thread saying "blah blah blah is such a stupid f*cking bah blah" and the people that were on his side laugh and agree.
Then the other side starts name calling which brings the ratio to about 20% discussion 80% namecalling
By the end of the thread both sides are just saying " that site is biased it proves nothing you *****" while the other side is saying "no it proves everything you super-*****" and then it becomes full blown 100% name-calling.
Now why on earth would you NOT want to ban that crap tominator? its all the same, go look at EVERY "political thread on here"......obviously noone can talk about it reasonably so we shouldnt have it.
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A man that gives up a little freedom, for a little security, will have neither, and deserves neither. ~ Benjamin Franklin
Although I've not involved myself with ever political thread, I have noticed you rarely do anything in them but do exactly what you want to ban.
I may be wrong, but you do seek to inflame as far as I can see.
It is also obvious what member starts the most political threads. I'm befuddled as usually one of a few members completely debunks the post and it's source and THEN the anti-political-post folks chime in wanting only to increase their post count, or so it seems as they add not a thing to what might be a worthwhile discussion.
How in the world do the political threads being at the top prevent you or anyone from seeing or posting in another thread?
Don't like politics? As far as I'm concerned REAL issues in life and politics are a very complicated subject as are most things worth a hoot. Stay out of the thread if all you want to talk about is music, girls or any other subject that have not a thing to do with Mustangs.
Ban every thread that does not vontain the word Mustang? V8 v. V6? OHC v. pushrod? Fox body v....you get the idea.
Life is full of choices. Many do not matter, but politics matter more that I think you can imagine.
Last edited by ScottHalliday; 09-04-2004 at 12:47 PM.
Reason: remove flaming comment
Although it would be nice not to have to see those... it'll be hard to make that happen. People will argue its not an open forum then. But eh. Hence why I haven't come in here that much
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