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He sent me a nasty PM. Don't know what his problem is.
MAybe you should go back and re read some of your post . It`s not that hard to figure out .
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01 has actually toned it down a bit in the last few posts I have seen from him (in other threads). He's had a some pretty good posts, too. Maybe he isn't just trying to get banned, maybe he was just adjusting.
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01 has actually toned it down a bit in the last few posts I have seen from him (in other threads). He's had a some pretty good posts, too. Maybe he isn't just trying to get banned, maybe he was just adjusting.
I agree, it is almost like another person, maybe his kid was playing?
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Hey I�ve been away awhile because my home computer was infected with adware and it took awhile to get it all removed. I�ll have to review all my arguments with Coyote to get back in the swing.....but here is a start....

Do ya feel the love Coyote?

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The amount of fraud in food stamps, and "education" (it was mainly beauty collleges and trucking schools) is peanuts in comparison to what's currently going on in Iraq, and the Gulf Coast.
Political deflecting...ttypical coyote tactic!.....
What is wrong with trucking schools?, one of my best friends went to a trucking school on the governments dime when the business he worked for closed up shop. They would of funded him going to a university but he chose trucking, guess what? it cost a whole lot less then a university and he is making huge money, (twice my salary on a slow year for him) had what he pays in taxes more them makes up for the schooling the government paid for.
What wrong with a beauty Collage? It doesn't pay that much but it's a honest living and not welfare.

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Weight is not necessarily the result of overeating. And in many cases it's not the amount of food but the presence of diseases such as diabetes which can cause inordinate weight gain. Heck, my mother in law only eats bread and soup (she can't keep anything much more than that down) she's gained 50 lbs in the past year.
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To be specific, it seems to be caused by high fructose corn syrup, the production of which is subsidized, which means it makes its way into the food supply via the cheapest foods. Real cane sugar does not seem to cause the obesity problems, but it costs more to produce and consume. several populations can't seem to metabolize the product, so the body stores it as fat.
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No, Diabetes is not. Our diets, per se haven't changed in the past 30 years.
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No, people ate whoppers & big macs like crazy in the 70s and 80's too. Ask any dietitian. For the past 10 years, they'v ebeen trying to figure out what's changed, and it's HF corn syrup. GO into your fridge and start looking at the labels -even breakfast sausage, which used to have maple syrup, brown sugar, or molasses now has HF corn syrup, even cheaper breakfast drinks have lower orange juice percentages and increased corn syrup.
Umm you need to do more research. First off I'm Hypoglycemic and diabetes runs on both side of my family so I know a little about the subject. Diabetes is caused by excessively high levels of blood-glucose.

glu cose
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1. A monosaccharide sugar, C6H12O6, occurring widely in most plant and animal tissue. It is the principal circulating sugar in the blood and the major energy source of the body.
Any food that you eat that breaks down to glucose will raise your blood glucose. All sugar products do this including cane sugar. Your mother is gaining weight because of all the bread she is eating, bread will break down into a sugar in the stomach!

17 years ago (god I feel old) I did some armature kickboxing I was on a special diet and was not allowed sugar, guess what high fructose corn syrup was in everything back then (and boy did I cuss it!) and it was probably a lot further back then just 17 years ago.


Diets haven't changed in the last 30 years!!!!!!!! Oh come on you are smoking way too much weed! Don�t you know you�re not supposed to inhale!!!!!!

Everything we eat nowadays is processed food, and it is horrible for our bodies. Even the meat we buy is pumped fill of hormones, why do you think 9 -10 years old girls are menstruating!!!
People may of eaten whoppers & big macs in the 70s and 80's but compare the number of them sold back then to the number sold now. In the 70�s the only fast food restaurant in town was a Dairy Queen. It wasn�t until 85 when we got a McDonalds. How many people on this board have ever had farm raised beef that was not injected with chemicals? I know people with it in their freezers right now and that number has been greatly reduced in the last 30 years. When I worked fast food in high school a large cup was now what most restaurants consider a small. We didn�t have SUPER SIZED portions either, or kids eating McDonalds 4meals daily and ordering shakes with those meals and then wanting to sue McDonalds because they are fat!

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So, you're saying Nicole and Paris Hilton deserve to pay less in taxes because their great-grandparents made a lot of money? Meanwhile, we should also give the Social Security Trust Fund top them as well, for the service the BJ video gave to the country?
I'm sure Clinton would agree that we should��..and the video was called �One night IN Paris� buy the way....

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I don't understand.
Nothing new here....
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Hey I�ve been away awhile because my home computer was infected with adware and it took awhile to get it all removed. I�ll have to review all my arguments with Coyote to get back in the swing.....but here is a start....

Do ya feel the love Coyote?



Political deflecting...ttypical coyote tactic!.....
What is wrong with trucking schools?, one of my best friends went to a trucking school on the governments dime when the business he worked for closed up shop. They would of funded him going to a university but he chose trucking, guess what? it cost a whole lot less then a university and he is making huge money, (twice my salary on a slow year for him) had what he pays in taxes more them makes up for the schooling the government paid for.
What wrong with a beauty Collage? It doesn't pay that much but it's a honest living and not welfare.










Umm you need to do more research. First off I'm Hypoglycemic and diabetes runs on both side of my family so I know a little about the subject. Diabetes is caused by excessively high levels of blood-glucose.

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Any food that you eat that breaks down to glucose will raise your blood glucose. All sugar products do this including cane sugar. Your mother is gaining weight because of all the bread she is eating, bread will break down into a sugar in the stomach!

17 years ago (god I feel old) I did some armature kickboxing I was on a special diet and was not allowed sugar, guess what high fructose corn syrup was in everything back then (and boy did I cuss it!) and it was probably a lot further back then just 17 years ago.


Diets haven't changed in the last 30 years!!!!!!!! Oh come on you are smoking way too much weed! Don�t you know you�re not supposed to inhale!!!!!!

Everything we eat nowadays is processed food, and it is horrible for our bodies. Even the meat we buy is pumped fill of hormones, why do you think 9 -10 years old girls are menstruating!!!
People may of eaten whoppers & big macs in the 70s and 80's but compare the number of them sold back then to the number sold now. In the 70�s the only fast food restaurant in town was a Dairy Queen. It wasn�t until 85 when we got a McDonalds. How many people on this board have ever had farm raised beef that was not injected with chemicals? I know people with it in their freezers right now and that number has been greatly reduced in the last 30 years. When I worked fast food in high school a large cup was now what most restaurants consider a small. We didn�t have SUPER SIZED portions either, or kids eating McDonalds 4meals daily and ordering shakes with those meals and then wanting to sue McDonalds because they are fat!



I'm sure Clinton would agree that we should��..and the video was called �One night IN Paris� buy the way....


Nothing new here....
Re: HF Corn Syrup

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp...nguage=printer
http://www.newstarget.com/002584.html
http://www.newstarget.com/003002.html
http://www.thefactsaboutfitness.com/news/hfcs.htm
http://www.westonaprice.org/modernfo...hfructose.html
http://www.defeatdiabetes.org/Articles/food040429.htm
http://www.noweightgaincookbooks.com...than_sugar.htm

I could go on. But one of the women I dated was a health/fitness instructor, with a degree in kinesiology & pre-med, a masters in health and nutrition, and is working a Ph.D of some sort in medicine. Her dad was also a doctor in McPherson.

The body can process simple sugars, and starch sugars correctly. HF corn syrup is a fructose made from a starch. The body stores it as a starch. Instead of burning it like a sugar.

Basically, the body thinks it's getting a sugar, processes it like a starch, and it throws the system into a feedback loop, that it can't self correct.

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Re: Beauty Colleges and Trucking Colleges. It's not the students, graduates, etc., It's that several schools were busted for fraud for classes not taken, students who never took classes, and overcharging the higher educational system for said classes. There's nothing wrong with honest colleges and schools, just like there was nothing wrong with honest savings and loans.

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Fast Food has been in my hometown since the 50s. people ate there a lot. There is nothing wrong with eating beef, potatoes, etc. it WILL NOT cause weight gain and diabetes. It's the way french fries are made (YES, the PROCESSING) in which the natural ingredients are removed, processed and replaced into the starch hull of the potatoes. It's the HF Corn Syrup, it's the additives in beef, it's all the corporate crap they're putting in it.

In the 50s & 60s, the American diet was what? Meat, bread and potatoes.

What is it now? meat bread and potatoes.

The diet hasn't changed, the PROCESSING is what's changed

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He especially didn't give my hard-earned social security funds to Paris Hilton, Neil Bush, or Monica, for that matter, while chintzing on body armor, rhinos, and other military equipment for troops at war, -nor did he give us an unnecessary war based on a bunch of crap intelligence on a Project for a New American Century.
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Hey there is nothing wrong with porn, single moms have to make a living too!
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Re: HF Corn Syrup

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp...nguage=printer
http://www.newstarget.com/002584.html
http://www.newstarget.com/003002.html
http://www.thefactsaboutfitness.com/news/hfcs.htm
http://www.westonaprice.org/modernfo...hfructose.html
http://www.defeatdiabetes.org/Articles/food040429.htm
http://www.noweightgaincookbooks.com...than_sugar.htm

I could go on. But one of the women I dated was a health/fitness instructor, with a degree in kinesiology & pre-med, a masters in health and nutrition, and is working a Ph.D of some sort in medicine. Her dad was also a doctor in McPherson.
There you go again no reading my post again……..
HFCS is horribly for you…….and it’s been around a hell of a lot longer then 10 years.

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The body can process simple sugars, and starch sugars correctly. HF corn syrup is a fructose made from a starch. The body stores it as a starch. Instead of burning it like a sugar.

Basically, the body thinks it's getting a sugar, processes it like a starch, and it throws the system into a feedback loop, that it can't self correct.
The body can process lots of things, alcohol is a poison yet we consume it in gallons, the body does process simple sugars without harm but in the quantities we Americans eat sugars in all forms it causes the blood-glucose to rise and excessive blood-glucose over a period of time is like any drug the body stops producing it and that’s why we have insulin dependent diabetics…it’s a little bit more complicated then this but that’s an overview.


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In the 50s & 60s, the American diet was what? Meat, bread and potatoes.

What is it now? meat bread and potatoes.

The diet hasn't changed, the PROCESSING is what's changed
I’m sorry what is your definition of “it”?

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So far as I know, Clinton never gave anything for what he got
He got his Arkansas Law license revoked……oh I’m sorry that was for prudery…..
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There you go again no reading my post again……..
HFCS is horribly for you…….and it’s been around a hell of a lot longer then 10 years.



The body can process lots of things, alcohol is a poison yet we consume it in gallons, the body does process simple sugars without harm but in the quantities we Americans eat sugars in all forms it causes the blood-glucose to rise and excessive blood-glucose over a period of time is like any drug the body stops producing it and that’s why we have insulin dependent diabetics…it’s a little bit more complicated then this but that’s an overview.




I’m sorry what is your definition of “it”?



He got his Arkansas Law license revoked……oh I’m sorry that was for prudery…..
HFCS
Yeah, but it wasn't until the mid 80s when subsidies started it's being put into everything. There WAS corn syrup. But it wasn't HF corn syrup, and it WASN'T in everything. Coke used cane sugar until the mid 80s.

It ISN'T sugars and starches, per se. There are SEVERAL peoples who subsist mainly on sugars and starches (think Asians and Rice, Central Americans and Corn, South Americans and Potatoes, Heck several African tribes subsist on MILK and HONEY (Lactose and sucrose)) but diabetes is starting to hit them hard as well, AFTER they move to the US.

DId you even READ the articles?

your definition seems to be different than mine. The food hasn't changed, it's the preparation. That's the definition of "IT"

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You've claimed clinton was guilty of all sorts of things ranging from murder and rape, to perjury.

Funny how murder has no statute of limitations, so whatever evidence is out there, all they have to do is bring it.

HE wasn't even convicted of perjury. 70 million dollars + whatever millions of dollars in propaganda + over 200 FBI agent's time, and nothing, not whitewater, not travelgate, blah, blah, blah.
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HE wasn't even convicted of perjury. 70 million dollars + whatever millions of dollars in propaganda + over 200 FBI agent's time, and nothing, not whitewater, not travelgate, blah, blah, blah.
They didn't call him slick Willie for nothing.
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Easy to be slick, when you're not guilty.
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Easy to be slick, when you're not guilty.
Not guilty is not innocent. If you buy off enough people sure you can make things go away. Typical Democrat, if Clinton said the world was flat Coyote would start posting links to prove their point. What Coyote fails to understand his narrow views and ability to ignore the facts pulls more people to the Republicans, the more he talks to “educate” us the more votes GWB get. Coyote your the best Republican I know!

Coyote has said numerous times Clinton did “nothing wrong“, so I guess his opinion is perjury, witness tampering and obstruction of justice is “nothing wrong”.

Clinton paid Jones and her attorneys $850,000 to drop her law suit because he did “noting wrong”

On Jan. 19, 2001, the day before he left office, President Clinton agreed to admit to giving false testimony in the Jones case and to accept a five-year suspension of his law license and a $25,000 fine in return for an agreement by the independent counsel, Robert W. Ray (Starr's successor), to end the investigation and NOT prosecute him. But then again he did “nothing wrong”.
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Not guilty is not innocent. If you buy off enough people sure you can make things go away. Typical Democrat, if Clinton said the world was flat Coyote would start posting links to prove their point. What Coyote fails to understand his narrow views and ability to ignore the facts pulls more people to the Republicans, the more he talks to “educate” us the more votes GWB get. Coyote your the best Republican I know!

Coyote has said numerous times Clinton did “nothing wrong“, so I guess his opinion is perjury, witness tampering and obstruction of justice is “nothing wrong”.

Clinton paid Jones and her attorneys $850,000 to drop her law suit because he did “noting wrong”

On Jan. 19, 2001, the day before he left office, President Clinton agreed to admit to giving false testimony in the Jones case and to accept a five-year suspension of his law license and a $25,000 fine in return for an agreement by the independent counsel, Robert W. Ray (Starr's successor), to end the investigation and NOT prosecute him. But then again he did “nothing wrong”.
Jones's case was already disproven, look it up, specifically, you may want to look up "the hunting of the president," written by one of the lawyers Scaife hired to take Clinton down at any cost, and an editor who was actually no fan of Clinton in Arkansas.

You can make whatever claims about my information, but *ahem* where are the WMD? Where is the link between Iraq and Al Quaeda? Where is Osama? Where are ALL the jobs? Why has median income gone down EVERY YEAR Bush has been in office? Didn't he say the deficit wouldn't go up?

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The Jones case was never “disproven” although your “Democrats guide to the English Language” says No Guilt Verdict – Disproven.
Maybe you should look it up, but what good would it do as you have your “Democratic Only” search engine that filters out any negative new of the Democrats.

Here are some fact you should look up. Jones lawyers quit when she refused to take a $700,000 tentative settlement because the settlement did not include a apology. Now please answer why someone would offer to pay $700,000 when they did nothing wrong.

Susan Webber Wright was the Republican Judge from Arkansas that threw out the case because she was mad at Jones Attorneys. Even Clinton could not believe that case had been thrown out he thought his attorney who was giving him the news was playing a April’s Fool joke on him. Look it up.

An appeal was filled and arguments heard, Clinton’s Attorneys knew the appeal would end up going through so they offered up a 850,000 settlement that was later accepted. Now if you can tell me in your Democrat logic why someone would pay 850,000 when they didn’t do anything “wrong” at in spite it wasn’t “wrong” it was according to you “disproven”

Clinton committed perjury, witness tampering and obstruction of justice, and accepted a plea bargain which was in essence a “no contest” plea. This basically means he admits nothing but realizes he would be convicted if a trial would be held so he plea bargains and loses his licence and pays 25,000 in fines for the offence of committed perjury, witness tampering and obstruction of justice.

Yep how could anybody disagree he is “not guilty”
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The Jones case was never “disproven” although your “Democrats guide to the English Language” says No Guilt Verdict – Disproven.
Maybe you should look it up, but what good would it do as you have your “Democratic Only” search engine that filters out any negative new of the Democrats.

Here are some fact you should look up. Jones lawyers quit when she refused to take a $700,000 tentative settlement because the settlement did not include a apology. Now please answer why someone would offer to pay $700,000 when they did nothing wrong.

Susan Webber Wright was the Republican Judge from Arkansas that threw out the case because she was mad at Jones Attorneys. Even Clinton could not believe that case had been thrown out he thought his attorney who was giving him the news was playing a April’s Fool joke on him. Look it up.

An appeal was filled and arguments heard, Clinton’s Attorneys knew the appeal would end up going through so they offered up a 850,000 settlement that was later accepted. Now if you can tell me in your Democrat logic why someone would pay 850,000 when they didn’t do anything “wrong” at in spite it wasn’t “wrong” it was according to you “disproven”

Clinton committed perjury, witness tampering and obstruction of justice, and accepted a plea bargain which was in essence a “no contest” plea. This basically means he admits nothing but realizes he would be convicted if a trial would be held so he plea bargains and loses his licence and pays 25,000 in fines for the offence of committed perjury, witness tampering and obstruction of justice.

Yep how could anybody disagree he is “not guilty”

The settlement, (like a LOT of corporate settlements, as YOU know) was to get the issue behind the President, so that the administration, the FBI, the JUSTICE DEPT, and EVERYONE else could focus on their REAL jobs, INCLUDING FIGHTING AL QUAEDA.

Wright who YOU note was REPUBLICAN threw out the case, because it HAD NO MERIT. THAT'S WHY she was ANGRY.

In THIS country, you are INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY. I don't know what sort of fascist country you'd like us to live in, but THAT IS THE CASE.

MEANWHILE, you worship the likes of CONVICTED FELONS, G. Gordon Liddy, Oliver North (who got off on a technicality), and Drug-head Hillbilly Heroin addict Rush Limbaugh.
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