If pcfrisch can have his Global Warming Victory Garden, perhaps we should start a termite farm. Using a sealed biosphere, we could capture all of that methane, and fuel all kinds of things. Maybe we could attach a chili parlor...
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If pcfrisch can have his Global Warming Victory Garden, perhaps we should start a termite farm. Using a sealed biosphere, we could capture all of that methane, and fuel all kinds of things. Maybe we could attach a chili parlor...
I think the answer is to go back to steam power in our cars and all transportation powered by buring wood, and building all homes from steel instead of wood in order to cut down on these nasty methane producers.
Or like you say, we can even use them to power our cars by having a termite farm in our autos.
I also believe the areas with the most termites should be taxed heavily. Instead of carbon credits, there would be methane credits.
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I think the answer is to go back to steam power in our cars and all transportation powered by buring wood, and building all homes from steel instead of wood in order to cut down on these nasty methane producers.
Or like you say, we can even use them to power our cars by having a termite farm in our autos.
I also believe the areas with the most termites should be taxed heavily. Instead of carbon credits, there would be methane credits.
The idea of taxing methane production IS part of the Kyoto agreements, but the SOURCES that were selected are interesting.
1. The "developing world" skates free of all restraints. This includes, by the way, two of the largest polluters on the planet: China and India.
2. Only domesticated animals and industrial sources in the DEVELOPED world (ie, Europe, Canada, Australia, the U.S., Japan and small parts of Asia) are "taxed" by the Kyoto Accords. Methane production elsewhere (including countries with the huge bulk of the aforementioned termite colonies) is free to continue. Since the areas actually under scrutiny represent an infinitesimal portion of the total planetary produciton of such gases, making any meaningful reduction requires truly draconian measures (everyone ready to become Vegetarians after we slaughter every domesticated animal in North America?) for the privileged few who live in the targeted countries.
3. As with all aspects of the Global Warming issue, the numbers and logic are weak (or non-existant) in direct relation to the overwhelming strength of the illogical, emotional content.
Of course, its all just a problem because of all us greedy capitalists in the West. If we were REALLY nice people, we wouldn't mind slitting our own throats so that all the needy methane-producers in the third world (and China and India, lest we forget) can have a better life!
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SINGAPORE (AP) -- Research aimed at disputing the scientific consensus on global warming is part of a huge public misinformation campaign funded by some of the world's largest carbon polluters, former Vice President Al Gore said Tuesday.
"There has been an organized campaign, financed to the tune of about $10 million a year from some of the largest carbon polluters, to create the impression that there is disagreement in the scientific community," Gore said at a forum in Singapore. "In actuality, there is very little disagreement."
Gore likened the campaign to the millions of dollars spent by U.S. tobacco companies years ago on creating the appearance of scientific debate on smoking's harmful effects.
"This is one of the strongest of scientific consensus views in the history of science," Gore said. "We live in a world where what used to be called propaganda now has a major role to play in shaping public opinion."
After the U.N. Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, made up of the world's top climate scientists, released a report in February that warned that the cause of global warming is "very likely" man-made, "the deniers offered a bounty of $10,000 for each article disputing the consensus that people could crank out and get published somewhere," Gore said. http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories...MPLATE=DEFAULT
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I read somewhere, that termites are the biggest emitters of methane on this planet.
The obvious answer to global warming, then, is to clearcut all forests. In fact, we should cut down every single tree in the world, burn them and blast the ashes into outer space immediately. Then we should pump as many noxious, deadly chemicals as possible into the ground around our homes. Eliminate their food source and these evil agents of global warming will die, leaving us to live a peaceful, happy existance - with the bonus of not having to rake leaves in the Fall.
Of course I'm being sarcastic. It kind of loses the humor, though, when you realize that some of the other suggested 'remedies' are just about as harmful to us and our environment as my facetious one.
I do believe that there is a climate change in progress. However, I also believe that it is natural and that the man-made element is minute, at most. I think that some folks just have a desperate need to believe that we are responsible because that, at least, gives them some feeling of being in control. As with many irrational beliefs, it's less scary than admitting the truth - that we have very little control. It's like our collective rationality is going back a couple of centuries. Next thing you know, AlGore will be starting a company that claims to be able to bring rain by firing a cannon at the clouds, just like the Rainmakers (or Rainmen) of the old days. Heck, as far as beliefs about humans controlling the weather, I honestly would have much more faith in the ability of a Native American Rain Dance to influence weather patterns than some lame-brained 'carbon exchange' scheme.
The Goreacle gets more nutty every day. The man is truly demented - one needs only look at his delusional statemnts (such as the one PC has supplied above).
Maybe the ancient Egyptians had the right idea. Worhship the Sun - which would at least acknowledge the Power that IS controlling such items as Global Warming.
Until some logical science (and no, I don't need a concensus, which is of course anathema to the concept of providing "proof" of anything) links our civilization to changes in the Sun, its all based on undefined blither.
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The obvious answer to global warming, then, is to clearcut all forests. In fact, we should cut down every single tree in the world, burn them and blast the ashes into outer space immediately. Then we should pump as many noxious, deadly chemicals as possible into the ground around our homes. Eliminate their food source and these evil agents of global warming will die, leaving us to live a peaceful, happy existance - with the bonus of not having to rake leaves in the Fall.
Of course I'm being sarcastic. It kind of loses the humor, though, when you realize that some of the other suggested 'remedies' are just about as harmful to us and our environment as my facetious one.
I do believe that there is a climate change in progress. However, I also believe that it is natural and that the man-made element is minute, at most. I think that some folks just have a desperate need to believe that we are responsible because that, at least, gives them some feeling of being in control. As with many irrational beliefs, it's less scary than admitting the truth - that we have very little control. It's like our collective rationality is going back a couple of centuries. Next thing you know, AlGore will be starting a company that claims to be able to bring rain by firing a cannon at the clouds, just like the Rainmakers (or Rainmen) of the old days. Heck, as far as beliefs about humans controlling the weather, I honestly would have much more faith in the ability of a Native American Rain Dance to influence weather patterns than some lame-brained 'carbon exchange' scheme.
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As suprised as I was, I can attest to the fact that on level ground they will.
I was on my way up to Prescott to see my wife and kids who were at camp up there. I got just past Sunset Point on I-17 Northbound, and decided to open up a little bit... Well as you all know, 100 happens pretty quick in our particular model, and I got there fast.
Imagine my suprise, as I slowed to 90, when I looked in my rear view mirror and saw a PRIUS comming up from the distance.
I let him get within about 5 car lengths and sped up to see how fast he was going. He was doing 105 by my speedo. About that time we got to a hill and he slowed a little. Still climbed a fairly steep hill at around 90 though...
I was SHOCKED.
Bet he had to feed the hamsters extra that night. and I am sure he had to be running that little thing HARD to do that...
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The truth about electric motors is that they produce low hp relativly, but ungodly amounts of torque...
You won't catch me in a hybrid though, unless it's a Ford.
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Imagine my suprise, as I slowed to 90, when I looked in my rear view mirror and saw a PRIUS comming up from the distance.
I let him get within about 5 car lengths and sped up to see how fast he was going. He was doing 105 by my speedo. About that time we got to a hill and he slowed a little. Still climbed a fairly steep hill at around 90 though...
If there was a dense cloud of wacky terbacky smoke billowing out of the cabin, it might've been algore the turd - oops, I meant third...
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The electric motor cuts out around 35. It is all gasoline after that speed.
So, then, if the electric motor makes lots of torque and if the gasoline motor takes completely over at a certain speed, then if someone could tune the electric motor to make ungodly torque - maybe even put in a bigger/stronger electric motor than the existing 'hybrids' use, then mate it with, say a turbocharged 4-banger gas motor and tune the whole setup so the electric motor kicks out at a speed or rpm that would be right after the turbo kicks in, you'd have solved the problem of 4-banger turbos not being as strong off the line. You'd probably lose any fuel efficiency advantages they might have, but they'd do pretty well from both a stop and from a roll, right? Hmmm...better keep that idea away from the ricers.
I saw on one of the cable channels - TLC or Discovery, I think - maybe an episode of Modern Marvels - they were talking about a company that did/is doing development work on different hybrids. electric cars, etc. One of the electric vehicles they had developed for testing was a golf cart that, purely on an electric motor, could go pretty fast (for a golf cart.) If I'm not mistaken, it could achieve highway speeds - maybe even more.
So, then, if the electric motor makes lots of torque and if the gasoline motor takes completely over at a certain speed, then if someone could tune the electric motor to make ungodly torque - maybe even put in a bigger/stronger electric motor than the existing 'hybrids' use, then mate it with, say a turbocharged 4-banger gas motor and tune the whole setup so the electric motor kicks out at a speed or rpm that would be right after the turbo kicks in, you'd have solved the problem of 4-banger turbos not being as strong off the line. You'd probably lose any fuel efficiency advantages they might have, but they'd do pretty well from both a stop and from a roll, right? Hmmm...better keep that idea away from the ricers.
Check out the Lexus hybrid. That's what they did - tuned the hybrid tech for PERFORMANCE. Works, too.
Mileage is really not the point - EFFICIENCY is.
Smart work, but still too much money for the car.
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ONE of the world's foremost meteorologists has called the theory that helped Al Gore share the Nobel Peace Prize "ridiculous" and the product of "people who don't understand how the atmosphere works".
Dr William Gray, a pioneer in the science of seasonal hurricane forecasts, told a packed lecture hall at the University of North Carolina that humans were not responsible for the warming of the earth.
His comments came on the same day that the Nobel committee honoured Mr Gore for his work in support of the link between humans and global warming.
"We're brainwashing our children," said Dr Gray, 78, a long-time professor at Colorado State University. "They're going to the Gore movie [An Inconvenient Truth] and being fed all this. It's ridiculous."
At his first appearance since the award was announced in Oslo, Mr Gore said: "We have to quickly find a way to change the world's consciousness about exactly what we're facing."
Mr Gore shared the Nobel prize with the United Nations climate panel for their work in helping to galvanise international action against global warming.
But Dr Gray, whose annual forecasts of the number of tropical storms and hurricanes are widely publicised, said a natural cycle of ocean water temperatures - related to the amount of salt in ocean water - was responsible for the global warming that he acknowledges has taken place.
However, he said, that same cycle meant a period of cooling would begin soon and last for several years.
"We'll look back on all of this in 10 or 15 years and realise how foolish it was," Dr Gray said.
During his speech to a crowd of about 300 that included meteorology students and a host of professional meteorologists, Dr Gray also said those who had linked global warming to the increased number of hurricanes in recent years were in error.
He cited statistics showing there were 101 hurricanes from 1900 to 1949, in a period of cooler global temperatures, compared to 83 from 1957 to 2006 when the earth warmed.
"The human impact on the atmosphere is simply too small to have a major effect on global temperatures," Dr Gray said.
He said his beliefs had made him an outsider in popular science.
"It bothers me that my fellow scientists are not speaking out against something they know is wrong," he said. "But they also know that they'd never get any grants if they spoke out. I don't care about grants." Gore gets a cold shoulder - Environment - smh.com.au
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