Bizarre case. The founder of America's own Muslim Channel appears to be implicated in his wife's death.
A beheading.
Buffalo NY.
Of course, such a thing is a very serious crime here. Hopefully the murderer will receive serious punishment from us, before he encounters Allah and gets the final low-down.
The thing about things like this is that they are not "isolated" cases. They are much more than that. And when a religion can have so many "misuses" of its scripture and "beliefs" it must be looked at for some other issues which would allow this to happen in the first place.
The same as when a particular religion is used time and again to support terrorist acts and terrorists. You can't dismiss it as simple "misuse" and "wrongful interpretation" of scripture.... even if it IS. You have to then make more than a token attempt to take care of the problem, or you are just as guilty IMO as those doing the deeds.
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The shackles of opression and dependence are most easily slipped on with a smile and kind words of hope.
As you can see, the news is garbled (coming out of Yemen, this is no surprise)...
Still, the facts are clear.
7 Germans (including 2 women and 3 small children) were kidnapped, along with several South Koreans.
We will soon learn exactly how many of the women and children were stabbed and then shot.
More brave holy warriors advancing their cause, showing their masculinity and strength abusing women and children. I have nothing but contempt for them!
I notice our mainstream media mentions these stories not at all...
That makes them accessories after the fact, in my book.
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"You can never be free until you let yourself go."
One of Iran's maximum mullahs speaks out on the subject of treatment for prisoners:
[quote] This reply, and reports of the rape of teen male prisoners in Iranian jails, may have prompted the following question: "Is the rape of men and young boys considered sodomy?"
Ayatollah Mesbah-Yazdi: "No, because it is not consensual. Of course, if the prisoner is aroused and enjoys the rape, then caution must be taken not to repeat the rape."
A related issue, in the eyes of the questioners, was the rape of virgin female prisoners. In this instance, Mesbah-Yazdi went beyond the permissibility issue and described the Allah-sanctioned rewards accorded the rapist-in-the-name-of-Islam:
"If the judgment for the [female] prisoner is execution, then rape before execution brings the interrogator a spiritual reward equivalent to making the mandated Haj pilgrimage [to Mecca], but if there is no execution decreed, then the reward would be equivalent to making a pilgrimage to [the Shi'ite holy city of] Karbala." [quote]
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"You can never be free until you let yourself go."
Last edited by tripleblack; 09-03-2009 at 08:14 AM.
I am not defending anybody, but make sure from where you got your things(Israel National News), I am Muslim suni and we have a lot of differences between the shea'a Muslim, and I have no problem with that, actually I have no problem with any religion , but believe me this is cant be true (Blessed by the clergy to the rape).
In Islam any type of raping man, women, kid etc.. Will be punished by execution.
By the way, the prophet Mohammad said raping it's like Shake the throne of God, this is how badly is.
Abud, my saying a thing is true cannot of course MAKE it true, and you saying a thing is untrue cannot MAKE it untrue.
All we have to go on is unsubstantiated hearsay in such things...
But one thing to note, the quoted source for this particular article (which is hardly unique regarding the radical ideas of this particular politically powerful imam) are "Iranian dissidents", which group has of course recently been the target of the man's attentions.
I'll add some links to this post regarding the bizarre history of this particular Ayatollah:
This is a leading Iranian dissident whose group is strongly involved with denouncing the recent election and the reprisals which have followed in its wake. Unfortunately I do not read Persian...
Good coverage by Huffington, just to show the depth of international concern for the situation extends beyond ITIC... The links in and from the Huff piece have extensive detail of developments which are still ongoing in the Iranian prisons.
More later.
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tripleblack
"You can never be free until you let yourself go."
Abud, my saying a thing is true cannot of course MAKE it true, and you saying a thing is untrue cannot MAKE it untrue.
All we have to go on is unsubstantiated hearsay in such things...
But one thing to note, the quoted source for this particular article (which is hardly unique regarding the radical ideas of this particular politically powerful imam) are "Iranian dissidents", which group has of course recently been the target of the man's attentions.
I'll add some links to this post regarding the bizarre history of this particular Ayatollah:
This is a leading Iranian dissident whose group is strongly involved with denouncing the recent election and the reprisals which have followed in its wake. Unfortunately I do not read Persian...
Good coverage by Huffington, just to show the depth of international concern for the situation extends beyond ITIC... The links in and from the Huff piece have extensive detail of developments which are still ongoing in the Iranian prisons.
More later.
Well my friend, I agree what you are saying, they even have a fatwa that killing Muslim suni is a part of their believe system, but again suni Muslim have bin laden with his agenda.
A revaluation should happen to the Muslim nation to remove all these type of people either suni all shea'a.
Is really painful to see all these people giving a bad reputation about Islam, believe my Islam is very far from them.
There is a good example I want you to think of it.
Which is more important humanity or religion?
Of course humanity is more important actually religion is just a tool to organize the human life and to make justice between them. Am sure you agree with me.
In Islam this was very clear the prophet Mohammad give an example for that, he said if tow nation in war, Muslim nation with no justice applied on their people and a non Muslim nation but they practice justice between people, GOD will stand and support nation which they practice justice whatever they are Muslim or non Muslim, this is very clear why western countries achieved what they are now, GOD always with justice
Lots of news in the media this week about Yemen, and tiny girls married off at the age of 10 or 12, then dying in child birth or seeking divorce after rape and abuse.
A recent effort to push the government to make the minimum age for marriage 17 failed because this would be contrary to Shariah, which has no age limits.
Just an update.
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"You can never be free until you let yourself go."
In Islam there is no dawn age for marriage, but the girl should be Mature (having Menstruation), usually in areas where whether is hot the girls getting mature before cold areas, and in al shareaa in Islam the father can't force his daughter to marriage.. This is what is in al shareaa.
now what is happing in Yemen it's not an ideal image, most of girls from the place I born the get marriage after finish from university at age 21-24, my mother was 24 years when married my father and this before 35 years.
You can say that we have another version of Mormons in Yemen
