You should get with FBI , you have an amazing ability to tell how people are feeling over the internet !!!!!!!!! LOL
Don't mistake assertiveness for aggresiveness!!!!!!!
This post did not start about how much better or worse the power to weight ratio is with v8 vs v6 ,or how much better the v6 is in the twisties.It was about a slightly modded s197 4.0 vs a slightly modded fox 5.0 .I was never trying to argue that a v6 was a bad car or worse than a v8.That my friend is what the majority of the v6 owners are trying to do .ALL I WAS SAYING ........................WAS ,that it was a little naive to think that HE beat the car !!!!!!!!!
Did you see the post that you made before mine... I was answering back about why I bought a V6 because you seem to think that I am angry at the world because I do not own a V8... lmao
You are right though, this thread did not start out as a V6 vs. V8 debate, it was made into one by V8 guys who do not believe that the 4.0L can run low 14's, high 13's mildly modded or beat a V8. I posted a link showing times and mods and then people still did not believe it.
I think I am done with this thread though. Too much arguing and not enough "factual" evidence(as if their is any such thing on the internet...)
Stock 5.0's are slow though... How can you argue that? Taking the best 5.0 stock and you still get mid to low 14's. That is not fast in my book.... lmao Are you getting a little angry? The 5.0 is an old out of date motor. It was and still is a cheap motor for performance but it is becoming increasingly out of date.
Do you know how you sound with statements like this ???
Where is it that a STOCK 4.0 is FASTER than a mid to low 14's ?????? Your the one who posted up the link with all the times .So let me get this straight a 5.0 STOCK is a mid to low 14 sec. car and so is a 4.0 v6 ? And if you put the exact same money into the same upgrades ........your still going to try and argue the fact the you will yield better results with a v6?????????
Now your going with the 5.0 is an old out of date motor........that's just crazy!!!!!!!! 5.0's respond very well to mods , VERY WELL !!!!!
But you keep living in your fantasy world !!!!! If it makes you sleep better at night thinking that you bought the better performance vehicle ......Good for you , it's your life !!!But please don't try and force feed your beliefs "THAT'S JUST NOT FAST IN MY BOOK".....OR "cheap motor for performance but it is becoming increasingly out of date" Cause guess what your motor will someday be cheap and out of date also!!!!!!! Have you seen the numbers for the new ecoboost v6 ????
You should be done with this thread ,cause your keep making yourself sound more crazy!!! I never said anything about 1/4 mile times ....you did !!!
Of course a mildly modded 4.0 can pull low to mid 14's to low 13's ...it's been done . BUT ,so can a mildly modded 5.0 ???? So what exactly is your point with that crap!!!!!!
I never said you were (cmaurer1) angry at the world ,actually you were the one to say I was angry!!!!! I never said anything about you personally ,untill you attacked me and said I was angry. I was talking about v6 owners in general !!!!!!!!! But you called me out of alll the v8 owners in this thread that was calling BS. So i responded to your empty claims ,and rubbish opinions on 5.0's ......
Hmmm... My posts were in response to another member who asked me to post up proof that a 4.0L could run low 14's high 13's without being charged or nitrous. The member stated that he did not believe that a 4.0L could so I posted up the proof. Have you read the entire thread or only the last 6 posts???
Do you consider low 14's fast?? If you do then the 5.0 in stock form is fast to you. I do not consider that fast...
I do not once remember saying that a 4.0L could run a low 14 or high 13 stock. Not once. If I did then it was a typing mistake.
Can you argue that the 5.0 is an old motor? It is becoming out of date too, the 4.6L responds to mods better than the 5.0L does now, in a few years it will be just as cheap to mod too. I did not say that the 5.0 does not respond to mods, in fact I said that it is a cheap performance motor, meaning it is good for the money.
I have seen the numbers for the ecoboost, I probably know more about the engine than you do. My 3.8L is already out of date, but it still can make good power, just like what I stated about the 5.0.
How did I attack you??? lmao If you consider me asking questions or stating my opinion attacking you then that is ok. I was joking around with you more than anything... When I put "lmao, lol, jk, or smilies" in my post it means my post is meant in a joking manner. Do you understand the meaning of humor or sarcasm?? I did not call you out... When I call people out I usually pm them first to ask them questions and then when they are still making retarded ass comments I call them out.
My rubbish opinion and empty claims... Your stock 5.0 block cannnot handle more than 550hp... I will wait for your response. lmao
Hmmm... My posts were in response to another member who asked me to post up proof that a 4.0L could run low 14's high 13's without being charged or nitrous. The member stated that he did not believe that a 4.0L could so I posted up the proof. Have you read the entire thread or only the last 6 posts???
Do you consider low 14's fast?? If you do then the 5.0 in stock form is fast to you. I do not consider that fast...
I do not once remember saying that a 4.0L could run a low 14 or high 13 stock. Not once. If I did then it was a typing mistake.
Can you argue that the 5.0 is an old motor? It is becoming out of date too, the 4.6L responds to mods better than the 5.0L does now, in a few years it will be just as cheap to mod too. I did not say that the 5.0 does not respond to mods, in fact I said that it is a cheap performance motor, meaning it is good for the money.
I have seen the numbers for the ecoboost, I probably know more about the engine than you do. My 3.8L is already out of date, but it still can make good power, just like what I stated about the 5.0.
How did I attack you??? lmao If you consider me asking questions or stating my opinion attacking you then that is ok. I was joking around with you more than anything... When I put "lmao, lol, jk, or smilies" in my post it means my post is meant in a joking manner. Do you understand the meaning of humor or sarcasm?? I did not call you out... When I call people out I usually pm them first to ask them questions and then when they are still making retarded ass comments I call them out.
My rubbish opinion and empty claims... Your stock 5.0 block cannnot handle more than 550hp... I will wait for your response. lmao
Ok here we go , first of all your 20 yrs old and your just proving how immature you really are . What exactly are you proving with that last comment ? Did I say it could handle 550 hp ? Your stock block can ??????????
I said to you that your stating that 5.0 STOCK IS slow , cause it runs 14's BUT what does a STOCK 4.0 run ?????????? So why is that NOT SLOW??????
I ALSO WASN'T THE ONE THAT SAID ANYTHING ABOUT IT BEING OLD OR NEW , OR ANYTHING BEING BETTER OR A V6 BEING SLOW,OR IT BEING LESS OF A CAR .........YOU DID ................Your the one making the attacking statements like that .All I did was call bs ,I stated several times I have nothing against v6's .........never once said it couldn't do this or that .....I called bs on one certain race I read about and simply said that don't be naive in thinking that HE beat the car!!!!!!! That's my response, "lmao" I'm just kidding about everything I just said though ...you see where I said lmao right .......OH wait I almost forgot to respond to the other stupid comment you put about me only reading the last 6 posts!!!! You need to read the whole thread I was the #15 post in this thread on page # 1 ,I have been reading all of it since the START .Maybe you need to go back and read from the start !!!!!!!
Oh my... Clearly you do not understand humor or sarcasm. Especially considering the pm's I got from you. lol I really am not sure what you are arguing about... Or what kind of a response you want from me... I try to explain to you and you send me angry messages and then post this. I never attacked you. I still do not understand where you get "attacked" from. Do you have any friends? If you do then I honestly feel sorry for them. They must be the worlds most patient people to deal with you. lol I suppose you could say that was an "attack"...
Why don't you stop posting? I am tired of arguing with you when I made a joking comment in the first place and you had to take it personally... It is the internet, people do not always agree,get over it.
Stock 5.0's are slow though... How can you argue that? Taking the best 5.0 stock and you still get mid to low 14's. That is not fast in my book.... lmao Are you getting a little angry? The 5.0 is an old out of date motor. It was and still is a cheap motor for performance but it is becoming increasingly out of date.
Wait so if you think that mid to low 14's isnt fast or at least quick what do you think of the 05+ V6 stangs that are running like low to mid 15's?
Oh yea and I saw your little V6 times on that website and the fastest one that was running a 13.8 had extensive modding + drag radials and gearing just FYI.
So let me tell you a story recently about what happened to a 2005 V6 when I was driving with my Girlfriend in her car.
So my GF drives a 03-04 one of those years IDK, G35 Sedan not a coupe and those things are pretty quick for a V6. And we were coming home from a party in her car with 2 other friends and some guy pulls up to us at a light in the middle of nowhere Lol looks over and looks at the light when it turns green we gun it and my girl's G35 was like 3-4 car lengths ahead and trust me my girlfriend's G35 sedan is heavy Lol. So idk how these 2005 V6s are beating 5.0 V8s.... They cant seem to even handle the little 3.5L V6s... And yes I know you'll ask if we've ever raced I have raced my girlfriend's G35 in my GT and I beat her by like 9-10 car lengths reason being....=MORE TORQUE! Damn Carroll Shelby was right!
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If your going to stock vs stock, then talk stock vs stock!!!! Once you modify a car AT ALL. It's an open ball park. So a modified V6 beat a modified V8? So what? I've seen V6's run single digit 1/4 miles. . . money can make anything fast. In fact, I was riding in a V6 that smacks my 03 Cobra around like a little girl last thursday. I can testify that 94-95 5.0's are extremely weak (do I dare even tell a newer civic SI it's a v8 after he stomps me?). . . I'd take a newer (I think 2000+) V6 over it in a race any day. It's a fun car though
Hmm... You're getting beat by a V6 in your 2003 Cobra!??!?!? If I were you I'd take my cobra back to Ford or I'd make sure I really have a 2003 Cobra and not a 1999 Cobra or something because an '03 Cobra getting smacked around like a little girl by a V6??? I dont think so... Because 03-04 Cobras can smash GTs, Machs, Bullitts, and older cobras into the ground and ALL of those V8 stangs would rape a 6 cylinder car.
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I did not buy a V8 because I did not want one... They are heavy and underpowered. The weight distribution on a V8 is horrible and is hard to overcome for handling purposes. I could care less about straight line racing, I do not think it takes talent. I like road racing, that actually requires skill. A quick V6 can be built cheaper than you would guess.
Lol your funny!
Put the same mods into a V8 and a V6 and race em in a straight line or your road racing and see who wins Lol... I'll give you a little hint it's not the V6
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^Jesus Christ. Is it a requirement to become retarded/argumentative when you buy a V8???
You asked for proof that a 4.0L could run those times mildly modded. That is mildly modded... Do you consider bolt-ons extensively modded? If you do then apparently we have different idea's... I think nearly every one agrees that extensively modded cars usually have internal work done or are charged/nitrous, not bolt-ons only...
Did I ever once say that the V6 would beat the V8 if you put the same mods on the two?? Did I? If I did please show me.
Where did I say that the 4.0L is fast stock? Please show me that post as well.
The G35, either sedan or coupe is a race for a PI GT. We all know that. So you raced a stock Mustang V6 with 210hp against your gf's 260+hp car and you are happy that you won?? Congratulations. The reason that you beat your girlfriend by 10 lengths is because she cannot drive. You do not have the power/torque to beat her by 10 lengths in a reasonable race, unless you are racing up to 140+. The G35 has 260trq. for that year. You have 40 more torque, that is not a big enough difference for you to put 10 lengths on her in a race, her driving is the problem. The G35 sedan is actually lighter than the coupe... Unless your gf has every option on the G35 sedan then it is probably almost the exact same weight as your GT.
And, actually I do not care whether you have ever raced your gf or not... lmao That little 3.5L V6 is now a 3.7L V6 that is faster than the new Mustang GT's.... Does that come as a shock to you that a V6 is faster than a V8 stock??
But, In all seriousness, Will you and 95BEASTstang please show me the posts where I said that a 4.0L is fast stock and that a V6 will beat a V8 mod for mod? I honestly do not remember typing anything along those lines and I want to see where I said that.
^Jesus Christ. Is it a requirement to become retarded/argumentative when you buy a V8???
You asked for proof that a 4.0L could run those times mildly modded. That is mildly modded... Do you consider bolt-ons extensively modded? If you do then apparently we have different idea's... I think nearly every one agrees that extensively modded cars usually have internal work done or are charged/nitrous, not bolt-ons only...
Did I ever once say that the V6 would beat the V8 if you put the same mods on the two?? Did I? If I did please show me.
Where did I say that the 4.0L is fast stock? Please show me that post as well.
The G35, either sedan or coupe is a race for a PI GT. We all know that. So you raced a stock Mustang V6 with 210hp against your gf's 260+hp car and you are happy that you won?? Congratulations. The reason that you beat your girlfriend by 10 lengths is because she cannot drive. You do not have the power/torque to beat her by 10 lengths in a reasonable race, unless you are racing up to 140+. The G35 has 260trq. for that year. You have 40 more torque, that is not a big enough difference for you to put 10 lengths on her in a race, her driving is the problem. The G35 sedan is actually lighter than the coupe... Unless your gf has every option on the G35 sedan then it is probably almost the exact same weight as your GT.
And, actually I do not care whether you have ever raced your gf or not... lmao That little 3.5L V6 is now a 3.7L V6 that is faster than the new Mustang GT's.... Does that come as a shock to you that a V6 is faster than a V8 stock??
But, In all seriousness, Will you and 95BEASTstang please show me the posts where I said that a 4.0L is fast stock and that a V6 will beat a V8 mod for mod? I honestly do not remember typing anything along those lines and I want to see where I said that.
Lol how is it my girlfriend's driving? She has an automatic tranny all she has to do is put her foot down on the pedal I'm the 1 who has to do all the shifting. And I still put lengths on her. We got up to about 110MPH and thats when it got even worse for her little V6 she started falling further behind. From 0-105ish she was only about 5-6 cars behind but past 110MPH is when her car just started getting slower and slower.
The V8 will always have a 2 cylinder advantage on V6s. Which is always nice to know although it doesnt always matter.
Oh yea and as for you saying that a stock V6 will beat a V8 you said it when you agreed that the post-starter's car could kill a 5.0L. Look at the mods he has they are mostly for show none of them are really power-adders. They're "show" mods.
Like 95BEASTstang said dont take it out on us because you dont have a V8 muscle car!
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You really dont know how slow the V6s really are until you've owned a V8 stang trust me I know first hand. My V6 was and still is a really really nice commuter car. But now that I have my GT i love just putting the pedal to the metal and feeling that V8 just pushing you back against your seat and gets adrenaline flowing through your blood. Literally the 1st time I got to let my GT run when I got out of the car I was shaking from excitement and adrenaline.... A V6 won't do that for you without being heavily modded.... Trust me Cmaurer get a V8 stang and you too will be saying "there is no way a 4.0L V6 mustang could hang with a V8"
100% Guarantee quote me on it.
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You did not show me an exact post. I went through and re-read all of my posts thinking that I had said that the OP's car could take a 5.0. No where did I say that his car would kill a 5.0, stock or modified... I looked at his sig. and I agree that his mods are mostly show not go. I posted that it was possible for a 4.0 to run low times mildly modded, not that it could run those times stock, or that it was faster than a V8 stock. I go back through these posts and I do not seem to be the one twisting words around. 95BEASTstang told me that I am twisting everyones words around, I am just stating what can happen, yes or no?
Like I already posted before, I do not want a V8 "Muscle car". lmao You think the 2v GT is fast? Evidently you have never driven a fast car then...
You seem to think that I have never even ridden in a fast car let alone driven a fast car. I have ridden and driven both numerous numerous times. I have driven quite a few stock to extensively modded GT's and the stock ones are not fast in my book. You have never driven a fast car if you think that your GT is fast. I am not bashing your GT, I am just saying it is not fast.
Their are plenty of ways that a 4.0L V6 Mustang could hang with a V8 Mustang... They have been stated time and time again. lol
Tell me how your gf's car is so slow then. They are nearly the same weight as a GT, same power/less torque, slightly better gearing, better tranny. It is the driving, not the fact that you have an ultra fast car.
LOL 
Don't mistake assertiveness for aggresiveness!!!!!!!
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Cant we just all get along? 
I will wait for your response. lmao
lol I suppose you could say that was an "attack"...
